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What Churches Should Know About YWAM Part 3: ‘Hearing God’s Voice’

This post is the third in a series on the influential Christian missions organization Youth With a Mission (YWAM). YWAM was founded in 1960 by Loren Cunningham as a way to deploy young people as missionaries throughout the world. It’s now one of the largest Christian missionary organizations in the world, having more than 18,000 staff working in over 180 nations. Many churches financially support YWAM full-time missionaries and young adults who sign up to go on short-term mission trips with YWAM or to attend one of YWAM’s Discipleship Training Schools or other schools. Yet many of these churches would likely be surprised and concerned to learn about some of the unbiblical and spiritually harmful teachings promoted by this organization.

In the first post I outlined one significant part of YWAM’s theologically controversial history, its promotion of Moral Government Theology and Open Theism. The second post shows that YWAM has allied itself with leaders of the New Apostolic Reformation movement and has adopted many of their questionable teachings and practices.

Hearing God’s Voice

One of the cornerstone teachings at YWAM is about the importance of learning to “hear God’s voice” – or, in other words, learning to receive personalized, daily, moment-by-moment direction from God – usually via dreams, visions, and prophetic impressions.

To be very clear: this YWAM practice does not generally refer to hearing God’s voice in Scripture – at least not by reading it in context. Listening to the timeless guidance and obeying the commands found in His written Word – with regard to its literary, historical and grammatical contexts – is a sound and essential practice.

Rather, in YWAM, when Scripture is used to hear God’s voice, leaders often neglect sound interpretative practices. Instead, they frequently misuse Scripture by choosing verses willy-nilly and treating them like fortune cookies or a Magic 8-Ball. Dubious teachings about hearing God’s voice are taught at all YWAM Discipleship Training Schools during their lecture phase, as they are part of the core curriculum.

A ‘Foundational Value’

The practice of listening to God for moment-by-moment direction is so vital for YWAM it’s stated as the organization’s third “foundational value”:

“YWAM is committed to creating with God through listening to Him … We are dependent upon hearing His voice as individuals, together in team contexts and in larger corporate gatherings as an integral part of our process for decision making.”

Accordingly, many of the decisions made at YWAM bases are based on specific instructions the students and staff believe they’ve heard from God. For example, often the locations for the outreaches are decided by the staff and students after seeking to hear God’s voice about which country they should go to.

Once the team travels to that location, they also seek specific direction for each of their activities there. For example, a team from YWAM Harbour City Hong Kong went on an outreach to the Philippines. While there, they sought to hear God’s voice before giving a public evangelistic presentation.

One of the team members suddenly had a mental image of Elmo, the Sesame Street character. They all thought the mental image seemed silly. But later, at the presentation, they saw a girl who was about 12 years old. She was wearing a T-shirt with Elmo on the front. They determined, from the mental image their teammate had seen earlier, that God wanted them to speak with the girl. They did and she immediately gave her life to Christ, according to one of the team members who later recounted the story on YouTube.

What’s the Big Deal?

What could possibly be wrong with learning to hear God’s voice – especially if it leads to a young girl giving her life to Christ? God is sovereign. This means He can speak to people anyway He desires and at any time.

The problem with YWAM teaching is that many of the principles and techniques for hearing God’s voice cannot be supported in Scripture. Furthermore, students are taught that, by using these techniques, they can expect God to speak to them outside of Scripture on a regular basis. These teachings and practices can lead to making poor decisions with sometimes disastrous results. They also make YWAM students more likely to become victims of spiritual abuse.

The fact that, sometimes, positive things seem to result from these practices does not mean the practices are biblical or reliable.

YWAM’s Principles for ‘Hearing God’s Voice’

Many of YWAM’s teachings about hearing God’s voice can be traced back to a book written by YWAM founder Loren Cunningham. His book is used widely throughout the YWAM bases as a textbook on learning to hear God’s voice. It’s called Is That Really You, God?: Hearing the Voice of GodCunningham’s book is a record of the various ways he believes God has directed YWAM through the years.

In his book, Cunningham offers principles for hearing God’s voice. Below are four of them. I will not provide a full evaluation of each principle. Here I merely show that the scriptures Cunningham references do not support the principles he teaches from them. I also show how he treats Bible verses like fortune cookies.

Asking Specific Questions: Cunningham states that his readers can ask God a question and expect Him to provide a direct answer. He writes: “After asking the question that is on your mind, wait for Him to answer. Expect your loving heavenly Father to speak to you. He will (John 10:27; Psalm 69:13; Exodus 33:11).”

Notice that Cunningham cites three scriptures that supposedly support his teaching that God will always answer specific questions you ask Him. First, he cites John 10:27. But this verse says nothing of the sort. It states: “My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.” In context of the broader passage (John 10:22-30), Jesus is saying that his followers recognize, from what he has taught and done, that he’s the Messiah.

Cunningham also cites Psalm 69:13, which states: “But I pray to you, Lord, in the time of your favor; in your great love, O God, answer me with your sure salvation.” Yet, in context of the entire psalm, David is pleading with God to deliver him from a dire situation; he’s not asking for an answer to a question.

And, finally, Cunningham cites Exodus 33:11: “The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend.” It seems almost needless to say that this verse, which describes a special relationship God had with Moses, says nothing to support the teaching that we can expect God to directly answer every question we ask Him.

The ’Wise Men Principle’: Cunningham teaches that God’s direction for your life can be revealed when two or more “spiritually sensitive” people confirm something you believe God has already told you. He claims this principle is seen in the Bible, in Matthew 2, in the story of the Magi following the star that led them to Jesus. Regarding one of his experiences relying on this principle, he writes:

“This really is amazing, I thought to myself. It was like the Three Wise Men. They each followed the star – their individual perceptions of God’s direction – and in doing so came together to be led to Jesus” (Is That Really You, God?, Chapter 9).

It’s certainly true that, when making important decisions, we should seek the counsel of others (Proverbs 11:14; 12:15; 15:22). But Cunningham is not merely teaching people to seek wise advice. He’s teaching them that they are to seek specific, divine guidance through prophetic words given by multiple individuals. Cunningham’s misuse of Matthew 2 to support his principle is summarized well by someone with the username of “Audie,” who posted a critical review of Cunningham’s book on Amazon. Audie states: “The account of the Magi was not recorded to tell us to follow stars, literally or metaphorically, but to show us that Jesus is indeed the King.”

The Popcorn Method: Cunningham teaches one method of divine guidance that I have termed the “Popcorn Method.” Basically, a Scripture reference – a chapter and verse – will just pop into someone’s head. When that person looks up the reference to see what it says, he or she may discover that it contains guidance from God about a specific situation. Here’s how Cunningham describes this method, which he says he learned from a group of young Christians in New Zealand.

“They had a guidance practice that intrigued me. In their minds they would be ‘given’ a chapter and verse from the Bible without knowing what the reference said; then they would consider whether or not that reading was a special guidance for whatever they were facing. ‘You’d be surprised how often God uses that as a way to speak,’ they insisted. The key, they said, was being totally submitted to the Spirit of Jesus; if He wanted to speak, He could use any tool He chose, including this quite mysterious one.”

Obviously, seeking direction from God in this manner is arbitrary, silly, and potentially dangerous.

Magic 8-Ball Way of Reading the Bible: Another method Cunningham uses for hearing God’s voice is one Audie refers to as the “Magic 8-Ball” method. In his method, Cunningham reads present circumstances YWAM is facing into passages of Scripture that have nothing to do with those circumstances. Here is this method demonstrated, in Cunningham’s own words:

“I was sitting quietly praying with my Bible open to Hebrews. Suddenly the words of chapter 12, verses 26 and 27, leaped off the page. ‘Yet once more I will shake not only the earth, but also the heaven … that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.’ A rock hit the bottom of my stomach. ‘Oh no! I hope that doesn’t mean the ship!'” (Is That Really You God?, Chapter 14).

In other words, Cunningham read the words of Hebrews 12, which, in context, speak of God’s future judgment of the earth and the heavens. Yet he took the words as a warning about a ship YWAM intended to purchase. In response to this odd reading of Scripture, Audie rightly, states, “Umm … no, Hebrews 12 had nothing to do with that ship, sir. It was written well before that ship had been constructed, well before you ever planned to make use of it. A look at the context of the verses in question would show you that.”

In short, Cunningham’s teachings about hearing God’s voice are based almost entirely on his personal experiences and a handful of Bible verses he has ripped out and applied out of their contexts. His misuse of Scripture is especially concerning given the influence his teachings have over tens of thousands of YWAM students worldwide.

Prophesying Blindfolded and Drawing Prophetic Pictures

The above methods for learning to hear God’s voice are unreliable and unbiblical. Sadly, they – and other equally outlandish methods – are taught and practiced commonly at YWAM bases. Following is a blog post written in 2016, by a student at the Marine Reach base in New Zealand. It shows some of the methods for hearing God’s voice taught by the base director, Cheyne Hosking.

 

Take note that Hosking had students take part in an exercise where they each stood back-to-back against another student. And he instructed them to give prophetic words to their partner, without knowing to whom they were even speaking.[1]

A similar exercise – involving giving prophetic words to another person while blindfolded – has been practiced at YWAM’s Impact DTS in Skien, Norway. A former student named Stephen – who attended this DTS in 2018 –  reports that, through this exercise, God confirmed he should serve in the U.S. Army as a chaplain. Thus, he made a major life decision based on what he believes he “heard” from God during this exercise. But how do Stephen and other YWAM students know that the messages they have heard are actually from God and not from their imaginations or another more sinister (i.e., demonic) source? Such a practice is irresponsible at best and dangerous at worst.[2]

It’s troubling that YWAM students are taught to engage in such practices themselves. But it’s even more concerning that they go on outreach trips and teach those practices to others.

 

The Facebook post pictured above is dated May 19, 2018. From the photo and description, it can be seen that the Marine Reach students were teaching people to hear God’s voice. Apparently, they instructed the people to write or draw what God told them on pieces of paper. It seems that they were promoting the idea of hearing God’s voice, apart from Scripture, by seeking immediate prophetic impressions. The fact that the students are taking YWAM’s “hearing God’s voice” teachings to the mission field – where there is a dire need for solid biblical and theological training – is concerning. Of all the things YWAM missionaries could teach, why would they promote practices that have no biblical basis?

A life of chaos and confusion will inevitably follow those who follow their own imaginations. Scripture gives multiple warnings about the dangers of self-deception including the warning that “there is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death” (Proverbs 14:12). In addition to chaos and confusion, YWAM teachings about hearing God’s voice also open the door to spiritual abuse.

Spiritual Abuse

How do YWAM teachings about hearing God’s voice open the door to spiritual abuse? Recall that YWAM students seek to make every decision only after hearing from God. In such contexts, leaders who claim to hear most clearly from Him may – intentionally or unintentionally – exert undue influence on the thoughts and decision-making of the young people under their authority.

Indeed, this is exactly what happened to a former YWAMer named Laurie Jacobson, according to an article she wrote for the Cultic Studies Journal. The article, titled “My Experience in YWAM,” is featured on the website of Spiritual Abuse Resources. She wrote the article in 1986, but, as I have explained, YWAM teachings about hearing God’s voice remain foundational to YWAM. Thus, the potential for the abuse she claims to have experienced remain.

Jacobson writes that, while in YWAM, she went along with the leaders’ decisions, even when they seemed wrong to her. She did so because she hadn’t heard anything from God about His will for certain matters in her life. But her leaders claimed that they had heard God’s will for her. She said her confidence in her ability to hear God “had been undermined by their [the leaders’] very confidence in being able to do so.”

She also said:

“It may seem that Intercession [i.e., hearing God’s voice] gives a student his own authority because he need only say to a leader, ‘God told me that it was the right thing to do and I “got scripture” in Intercession.’ But it didn’t work that way. Intercession is unique and generally new to the students, who are told that they will improve with practice. Therefore, each student was obliged to agree with the staff said, and if one tried saying, ‘God told me,’ the staff would contradict the student and, referring to the student’s inexperience, say, ‘Don’t worry, everyone is bound to make a mistake.’ Basically, YWAM believes that the students are not capable of making independent decisions, or of ‘hearing God,’ until they have completed a DTS.”

Of course, the idea that everyone is bound to make a mistake when they listen to God begs the haunting question, “Can a DTS leader hear wrongly, too?” The notion that DTS leaders hear more accurately from God is a potential tool for spiritual manipulation and abuse.

To be fair, the idea that DTS students cannot hear God’s voice as well as their leaders may not be stated explicitly at all bases. But it does seem to follow logically from YWAM’s teachings that students can learn to hear God voice by engaging in various exercises taught by their leaders, and that they can improve with practice.

In sum, seeking direction in the haphazard manner taught by YWAM is rife with many dangers, including opening the door to spiritual abuse. Accounts of such spiritual abuse are shared regularly by the members of a growing Facebook group named “Spiritual Abuse in YWAM.” Presently, the group has more than 500 members.

So, in response to Cunningham’s provocative question, “Is that really you, God?”, the right response may be “Probably not!” – at least if one is using Cunningham’s novel methods.

Certainly, God can speak outside of Scripture. But should He choose to speak, no chicanery, puppetry, or creative technique on our part is needed. God is perfectly able to make Himself heard apart from these misguided and unbiblical methods.

In my next, and final, article in my YWAM series, I’ll present a list of questions that churches and individuals ought to ask before jumping in.

About the author

Holly Pivec is the co-author of A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement and God’s Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement. She has a master’s degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University.

Notes

[1] Scripture nowhere teaches that anyone can learn how to prophesy by engaging in classroom-type exercises. Rather, it teaches that such spiritual gifts are gifts. And they’re distributed by the Holy Spirit to individuals as he wills (1 Corinthians 12:11).

[2] Commendably, Cunningham advises YWAM students to reject any guidance they think they heard from God that contradicts Scripture (see  his book Is That Really You, God?” in the appendix titled “Twelve Points to Remember: Hearing the Voice of God”). That caution is good; however, it doesn’t go far enough since students are still taught to seek moment-by-moment guidance through unreliable, subjective impressions and leadings.

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18 Responses to “What Churches Should Know About YWAM Part 3: ‘Hearing God’s Voice’”

  1. Roger olson Says:

    I would mostly agree with Holly. But sometimes God might give you a vision or prophecy. As Scripture says. Paul in Acts 13. Was given by God in prophecy where togo to. Now how do you think God spoke in that passage? A telephone.a fax? Now how many times did that happen? Probably rare? God generally is going to speak through Scripture. But to say that God no longer is giving out all the Spiritual gifts is error. Which is one reason to Study Scripture. And a teacher can teach somewhat how prophecy can come to you. I know by listening to some tapes back in the late 1980s. On the Gift of Prophecy how it helped me.

  2. Circuit Rider Says:

    @Holly, I want to very clear about what you are saying, because I know what your church believes regarding the daily guidance, comfort, conviction, and empowerment of the Holy Spirit. If anyone forsakes God and His Word to pursue feelings and personal experiences, they are in error and, ironically, need to pray and read their Bible. Likewise, if anyone forsakes the Holy Spirit and reads the Bible as literature and not the inspired, living Word of God (Heb 4:12), they are not practicing Biblical Christianity.

    Be careful to not throw out the Spirit with the bathwater of abusive excess demonstrated by NAR/WoF/YWAM/et al. I recently found an interview with Justin Peters in which he said he used to make allowances for “clear thinking” charismatics, but no longer. I find that disheartening. Based on his words and deeds, I would consider him a brother in Christ, but I doubt he would reciprocate.

    That is the other edge of the dagger of deception: not only do the practices separate people from God and put (or keep) them on a path to damnation, they separate believers by introducing skepticism, doubt, and even fear. This work of the enemy is destructive to everyone involved.

  3. Janis Says:

    Holly…thank you for continuing to keep us informed on the dangerous religious practices in the world today and revealing the truth…your extensive research is a blessing…keep up the good work!

  4. John Says:

    Learned a lot by reading this. Thank you, Holly.

    Another factor is YWAM’s use of contemplative prayer, which is no different from Eastern or New Age meditation. Rather than repeating something like “Ommm” etc., the person inserts a Christian word or phrase to use as the mantra. This has resulted in much deception, and much demonic communication. Here is YWAM promoting this unholy activity: https://www.ywam.org/blog/2018/06/11/contemplative-prayer/

  5. Donald Bate Says:

    In 2014 I was a fulltime volunteer at YWAM Samoa for 2 months, helping with building design and construction. I lived on campus with the students, participating in their morning worship and devotion times, and even some of their teaching sessions. They were all beautiful people.. hospitable, caring and sincere. I treasured my time there. However, even the most wonderful people can still be sincerely wrong. Although I didn’t personally hear any teachings directly advocating those mentioned in Holly’s post, it’s likely I simply missed them. I can definitely confirm that the “vibe” on campus regarding hearing God’s voice was exactly as described. Indeed the spiritual abuse element was very tangible, further magnified by hierarchical Samoan culture whereby villagers are answerable to the elders who in turn are under the authority of the village Matai (Cheif). Sounds familiar, doesn’t it.
    I have spent much time reflecting on my experience there, and churches in general. My sad conclusion is this: as noble as the DTS (Discipleship Training School) title sounds, the deception is that students are not actually taught pure Jesus’s teachings in line with His great commission of “teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you” (Matt 28:20). Rather, they become disciples of Loren Cunningham, of Bill Hybels, of Joy Dawson, or whoever else YWAM likes to endorse. That’s where things go askew, and it is evident by the fruit. I know what it’s like, I have been led astray myself in similar environments over the years, usually by very well meaning people (who themselves have been misguided). If we consider ourselves to be Christian (followers of Christ), we need to “hear these words of MINE and put THEM into practice” (said Jesus, Matt 7:24). Not someone else’s teachings. A simple yet profound truth, that has been life changing for me.

  6. Mary Bordes Says:

    Thank you. This is written so well.
    YWAM is in rebellion.

  7. Joey Carlson Says:

    Great article! Keep up the good work exposing the cults!

  8. Lisa Says:

    Holly and readers, do you know of any biblically sound organizations that a young person could serve with? It’s a shame that this one is so infiltrated by unbiblical teaching.

  9. Holly Says:

    Lisa, I’ve heard good things about Impact 360: https://www.impact360institute.org/

  10. william poulin Says:

    I have family in nar its like talking to a deaf person. experience is
    everything,scripture is discarded,or twisted,they follow what they are
    taught,blindly,this hurts more than I can say, their angel is leading them
    or the apostle who rules over them.my son left this same church.his sister did not,cannot talk to them as they are hearing from some spirit, they
    think every person needs an angel to guide then.

    bp

  11. Lou Says:

    Thank you Holly for bringing this to the forefront.

    I have seen this “hearing for the voice” teaching combined with ywam’s “laying down your rights” teaching. Nothing wrong with paying more attention to the things of God than those of the world. My issue is when teens give up on their “right to a family”, or their “right to an education”, based solely on pseudo-spiritual, extra biblical promptings.

  12. Theo Van Vliet Says:

    Thank you for this very helpful article, and for all the comments appended to it. The article is timely for issues I am currently wrestling with.

    Although I consider myself a cautious charismatic (not sure if I even dare use that word anymore), I am certainly not supportive of the practices NAR, WoF or YWAM. Yes, there have been times in my Christian walk that the Lord has provided encouragement or direction supernaturally (e.g. through a dream or words spoken by a fellow believer). However these experiences are rare, and when they do occur, they are always initiated by Him, never by me. In fact I doubt very much that we can make God speak to us on demand – He only does so how and when He chooses. I believe that it is there that YWAM has lost its way. Attempting to make God speak to us “on the spot” seems not all that different from conjuring.

    Circuit Rider makes a good point about not throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Throughout the Bible, the Holy Spirit and the written word of God seem always to appear in close association with each other. We need the fulness of both, as attested by the parallel passages of Eph. 5:18-20 and Col. 3:16-17.

  13. Paul K Says:

    When doctrine like “Hearing God’s Voice” is taught, leadership operates on the principle that “we can all equally hear God’s voice, but some hear it more equally than others.” What results is that decisions tend to then be made by the people who have the ability to impose their desires on the rest of the group – and in these contexts those people tend to be the more narcissistic types who have much more relaxed prohibitions (than the average person) against succumbing to delusions of grandeur. The average Christian who finds him or herself in organizations like this can’t imagine themselves making up such dramatic visions and prophesies so they tend to simply believe the leader – the average Christian (and especially the average younger Christian) usually hasn’t heard the phrase “narcissistic personality disorder” and doesn’t have the knowledge and background to give themselves the permission to question the prophesies and direction from the leader. It’s a trap that’s hard to escape – but not too hard for God to rescue someone from it. Thanks for your ministry, Holly!

  14. Phil Says:

    Hi!

    First off, thank you so much for the work you are doing here. I appreciate your search for truth and for your heart to share the gospel with the nations. I appreciate the hard work and research you have done and have read many of your articles and it has given me a great many things to think about and research myself.

    On this topic, I must say that I respectfully disagree. Admittedly I am a former YWAM student, and yes we were taught how to “hear and listen God’s voice” but it wasn’t a so much of a technique and something that can be taught, as much as it is teaching what God says about learning to be aware of His presence in our lives and revealing to us that Scripturally it is possible to hear God’s voice and that the spiritual gifts are real.

    For scripture says in Matthew 4:11: “I will baptize you with water for repentance, but the one who is coming after me is more powerful than I. I am not worthy to untie His sandals. He himself will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.”

    Again it is repeated in Mark 1:8: “I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit”, in Luke 3:16 – “He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire” and again in John 1:33 “…The one you see the Spirit descending and resting on — he is the one who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.”

    So scripture establishes multiple times that Jesus would baptize his followers (and we follow Jesus do we not?) with the Holy Spirit. But do we still have access to that Holy Spirit today?

    Let’s check out what Jesus says in Luke 11:9-13 — “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead of a fish? Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him?”

    So by Jesus’s own words (and we believe the Bible to be truth and inerrant), Jesus says that the Holy Spirit can be given to those who ask of him.

    1 Corinthians 3: 16 says — “Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you”? So Paul says that those who are in Christ Jesus and have ask Jesus into their lives are inviting the Holy Spirit to live in us. So the Holy Spirit is with us now and not just to the church in the first century, because the Bible is true, and God is the same now as He was and ever will be. He has not removed that gift from us (all who believe).

    Romans 8:9 — “You, however, are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him.” If we are true followers of Christ, the Holy Spirit is in us and is with us. Which means the same Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead lives in us (as Paul continues to say in Romans 8:11).

    As you mentioned in your article, that there are different gifts of the Spirit, as listed in 1 Corinthians 12: 4-11 “Now there are different gifts, but the same Spirit. There are different ministries, but the same Lord. And there are different activities, but the same God produces each gift in each person. A manifestation of the Spirit is given to *each person* (my own emphasis) for the common good: to one is given a message of wisdom through the Spirit, to another, a message of knowledge by the same Spirit, to another, faith by the same Spirit, to another, gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another, the performing of miracles, to another, prophecy, to another, different kinds of tongues, to another, interpretation of tongues. One and the same Spirit is active in all of these, distributing to each person as he wills.”

    So again Paul testifies to the church in Corinth that the Holy Spirit lives in us, and that (as Jesus stated above), the Holy Spirit can grant to each of us — as He wills it, not by our own power — gifts of the Spirit (who lives IN us and is always present with us who are IN Christ) which include things like healing, prophecy, words of knowledge, speaking in tongues, etc and that it is available to each of us in whom the Spirit dwells, which is everyone who has surrendered their lives to Jesus.

    So isn’t it possible that some of what those YWAMers were doing — asking God for guidance, seeking His spiritual wisdom, knocking on His door — would receive answers from the Holy Spirit that dwells in us?

    In one very concrete example of this, after I had already finishing my YWAM DTS, I returned home to Canada to a stressful and horrific surprise — while I was away, I had unfortunately and unknowingly been subject to an audit for 2 years of my income. Prior to doing my DTS, I had been a small business owner and had submitted my income and expenses for that business, but the government was subjecting me to an audit. The government had now indicated to me that I owed them $117,000 in taxes!!!

    I prayed to God, and asked Him where he was in all of this and asked Him for guidance and direction. As I prayed, the thing that popped into my head was a situation that you explained above in your article — the only thing I received was a verse that I knew absolutely nothing about: Colossians 2:14. I quickly grabbed my Bible and searched for what I thought God may have been telling me, and here is what the verse said:

    “He erased the certificate of debt, with all of it’s obligations, that was against us and opposed to us, and has taken it away by nailing it to the cross.”

    WHAT!?!?!? Ok — now I know that individually and historically this verse is taken way out of context from it’s original meaning, but could God be speaking something to me circumstantially? Could He be speaking to me through both the Bible and the Spirit?

    I held onto that promise and those words He spoke to me and I continued the process of appealing the decision from the auditor. It was a long process but I held on with faith, and 10 months later after a lot of work and back and forth with the tax office, the auditors office called me and told me that they found nothing wrong with my tax filings and that I was correct in appealing the decision (the expenses I had submitted were legit). And not only that, I ended up receiving a credit of several thousand of dollars.

    God held up the words He spoke to me through that prayer and listening for His voice. I fully admit that sometimes what we hear from Him can be completely misinterpreted and misrepresented in our actions, and that sometimes the fulfilment of what God speaks to us is different than what we expect, but God is truth and so is the Spirit. It is not one or the other, but a combination of the truth of God’s Word, the fulfilment of it through Jesus Christ, and the power of the Holy Spirit living within us that guides us to being and acting like Jesus calls us to (including the miraculous).

    Sorry for that novel, but I wanted to share that God, Jesus and the Spirit is alive and present and that it is possible to hear His voice (and that it is Scriptural to do the things you reported on in the article — and also that YWAMers can cause damage just like any pastor or reverend can, but that we all follow Christ and our desire is to lead people to Him).

    Thanks for your time, and I just want to leave with a few final thoughts: Luke 9:49-50 says:

    “John responded, ‘Master, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him because he does now follow us.’

    ‘Don’t stop him,’ Jesus told him, ‘because whoever is not against you is for you.’”

    As Christ followers, let’s be slow to anger, seek to understand, love our neighbour as Christ loved us. Let us build the church together instead of tearing each other down. “God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the less honorable, so that there would be no division in the body, but that the members would have the same concern for each other. So if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one is honored, all the members rejoice with it.”

    We are all the body of Christ, and Paul teaches us to embrace diversity and unity within the body. We are not all hands, nor feet, nor eyes, nor ears, but together as one body we function as one body and together share the Gospel message of Christ.

    Disclaimer: although I consider myself a “YWAMer” and have completed a DTS, I do examine everything I do and hear (whether through the Spirit, or through spiritual leaders, pastors, teachers, and blogs like this one) against what Scripture teaches. Not all YWAM schools (or even leaders within schools, or guest speakers) should be treated equal, and there are some dangerous teachings floating around, but not all of it is bad — much of it is truth and Scripturally sound. Jesus is my leader and I follow the Word of God — I put nothing above that and it is my guiding light. And in the Bible it states that we are lead by the Holy Spirit, by the living Spirit of Jesus Christ, whom I follow and whom doesn’t contradict His Holy Word (which I also regular check for wisdom). It is both, and that is something I was taught my first week at YWAM.

    Thanks again for your time, and I look forward to reading more of your work! God bless you and keep you and may his light shine upon you. And may He bless the work you are doing.

  15. Art Ellingsen Says:

    I see Part 3 about YWAM, but I don’t see Part 1 or Part 2.

    YWAM was founded by an Assembly of God guy, but I don’t remember his name.

    I would assume YWAM would share the same Theology as the A/G.

  16. Holly Says:

    Art, links to Part 1 and Part 2 of the YWAM article are found in Part 3. Here they are: http://www.spiritoferror.org/2019/05/what-churches-should-know-about-ywam-part-1-a-sketchy-theological-heritage/8273

    http://www.spiritoferror.org/2019/06/what-churches-should-know-about-ywam-part-2-partnering-with-the-new-apostolic-reformation/8331

    YWAM is not part of the Assemblies of God and does not share identical theology.

  17. Steve Lee Says:

    Holly,
    Thank you for your article on YWAM Part 3. It was a pertinent warning to all Christians. I am constantly surprised by how much Christians don’t know about what Biblical discernment is and how to obtain it. And, unfortunately, as you mentioned, this is a world-wide problem. God bless you, and keep writing.

  18. Nitha Says:

    I hate the way you wrote, first you check your self before you point out others teachings!

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