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Update: Is it too late to save this church from NAR?

September 30th, 2019 | 17 Comments | Posted in Assemblies of God, Assemblies of God USA

On Sunday, September 29, the members of Christian Life Center in Santa Cruz, California, passed a vote of “no confidence” in their lead pastor, Jeremy Anderson, who had brought the controversial teachings of the apostle Bill Johnson, and the New Apostolic Reformation, into this Assemblies of God church. The vote was 46 (no confidence) to 12 (confidence). Immediately following the vote, it was announced he is no longer the church’s pastor. See my previous article about the vote, and its significance, here.

About the Author

Holly Pivec is the co-author of A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement and God’s Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement. She has a master’s degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University

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17 Responses to “Update: Is it too late to save this church from NAR?”

  1. Bruce Cooper Says:

    Couldn’t be more pleased. Excellent! Thank you Holly!

  2. Michael Says:

    Kudos to the members of this congregation for asking key questions about the teachings of:

    1) Kenosis heresy – leading to the teaching that all should be performing all of what Jesus did. (what about Forgiving sins, transfiguration, portal travel as ways to refute that…See students at BSSM articulating that God told them they could forgive sins and student notes from BSSM discussing portal travel and students like Jason Westerfield pursuing portal travel and telepathy)

    2) Teaching that there are modern day “Apostles” vs. the apostle function and prophets vs. prophesying and not teaching Biblical discernment as to their roles. I.e. – one example would be Bill Johnson and many others have declared and prophesied that Todd Bentley is a great Apostle. Turns out that was not true….2008, 2013, 2019 examples of this.

    3) Healing in the atonement guaranteed before Christ returns….just look at how many are living forever to prove that wrong and the guilt and shame delivered by those that believe that all must be healed in this life.

    4) Dominionism: that we get to command things to happen….

    5) We bring Heaven to Earth as the Latter Rain taught…our actions enable the return of Christ.

    6) General lack of discernment in elevating words / works of humans and experience over the word of God: Teaching from the Passion Translation without discernment, Selling “Prophetic Pants” to impact those in our presence, The Honey Pot Annointing at Bethel, articulating to students that they need to pursue an angel guide.

    If your church is going through this – please see Holly’s site as a place to identify how to ask questions about what is really believed.

    Our church was also significantly impacted by one that claimed “Bill Johnson was his spiritual father” as well. He is no longer in the denomination of that church and hopefully will not be allowed back after he was removed.

  3. Brian Westcott Says:

    Praise God indeed! So long, false teacher! Time to stand up for the Word of God and sound doctrine!

  4. VWB Says:

    Good. How can this pastor claim AG credentials when he personally repudiated clear AG doctrine and positions Sadly the district will not take further actions but I’ll be watching to see I’d the n ca/ nv district gets the hint and stops buddying up to Johnson

  5. Circuit Rider Says:

    Wow. I listened to the latest sermon by Jeremy Anderson, hoping to hear some clue of the outcome – there was a bit of cheerleading but no indication of what was about to happen. Proverbs 16:18 in living color.

    As someone who is now an outsider but spent over three decades in the movement, I think the AG needs to do some serious introspection of their practices. From what I’ve seen, experienced, and now hear from concerned AG ministers, the movement is heavily focused on church metrics and diversity – much of it straight out of Rick Warren’s books. Did you remember to submit your KPIs to the District this month, Pastor? What is your first impression team’s strategy for connecting with Hispanics, the largest AG growth demographic? How racially diverse is your board of elders? Is your church data-driven?

    My words might sound sarcastic and glib but, sadly, these types of “church metrics” are not made up – I have seen enough PowerPoints from district offices, directing pastors in these strategies, to sink a battleship.

    I am deeply grieved by the business with CLC. I understand why people here are happy the vote went the way it did.. but, now, you have a church that will likely split and members who side with the former pastor will more fully embrace NAR heresy. I am also convinced there are many more AG congregations that have quietly followed the NAR pied piper right off the edge of a theological cliff.

    Church growth – the right type of church growth – will naturally occur as people study His word, worship Him, seek His will, and repent of their sins. The moment you begin viewing the flock as customers of “your” business, you have fallen into the same humanist trap as the charlatans you see on television.

    Pray, pastor. Pray.

  6. Justin G. Says:

    Excellent news! The AoG is a real front-line battleground for this stuff, and the relative independence of each church body ensures that AoG churches are all over the map with respect to Bethel, etc. Many of them aren’t aware of the problems with Bethel, but too many are buying it. It’s great to see a local body stand up for solid, Bible-based teaching!

  7. Ken L. Says:

    Thank you Holly for your great work, so much needed today. But I was just thinking of how accurate it would be to add a couple words to your report as follows: controversial NON-BIBLICAL teachings of the FALSE apostle Bill Johnson…. Keep up the good work.

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  9. David Says:

    I too am excited that CLC is released from this heresy and pray that the Lord will provide a Pastor who loves the Word and Truth. The AoG church we attended for many years was going down the church-growth path until it reached the point members began going to the Pastor and challenging his Leadership. He recentl¥ gave notice and left the church. I am praying that church Leadership will now wait upon the Lord for His guidance and direction for our next Pastor. Like many others, we are desperate to hear the true Word of God, stop focusing on church-growth tactics, and to see a move of God through our church. In these situations, where there is a change in Pastors, if we don’t wait on the Lord for His direction, no matter how long it takes, we run the risk of ending up with the same problems we hoped to eliminate. Like CLC, we thank the Lord for a fresh opportunity to go in the right direction. Lord, please give us the courage and faith to do so.

  10. Drew Says:

    Holly, I made a public FB post on Che Ahn’s Modern Day Apostles here

  11. Tyrone Flanagan Says:

    Dear Holly, If you haven’t read it, I have to recommend to you,”What
    Happened to the Fire?” by J.Lee Grady. Grady’s book is a detailed and
    important historical record of the abuses and misuse of the prophetic
    gifts by the Kansas city prophets and the elitism and spiritual pride
    that is so epidemic in some charismatic and pentecostal circles. Grady
    is very transparent in his book and describes his own involvement in
    elitist and authoritarian fellowships as a young man. The book describes
    in detail the process of being allured and deceived by groups that claim
    the they are part of a new breed of super Christians. This is a very
    valuable source book to have. Grady’s experiences are similar in many
    ways to my own as a young man in the Jesus movement of the 1970’s.
    Tyrone Flanagan

  12. william poulin Says:

    keep me posted on any thing related to n a r, sthere is a church near by.

    what is portal travel,
    what is honey pot.

    William poulin

  13. Angela Says:

    Hello Holly and everyone on here,

    Not sure if you have seen Kris Vollatons latest blog where he calls “Holy Spirit” a “Spirit Guide”….

    This is to add to all the heap of Bethels attempts to christianise the new age…

    God bless,


    Ps will put link in the next comment box…

  14. Angela Says:


    Please note this fits in completely with Bethels book “The Physics of Heaven” where they wanted to find “precious truths in the new age”…

  15. Sharl Says:

    I’m a South African and have witnessed the infiltration of NAR across the spectrum of Charismatic churches throughout our country. It is indeed a worldwide phenomenon.
    Bill Johnson courses, teachings, Sozo (counseling for inner healing) are purchased by different denominations here (merchandising on grand scale). Bethel music is very popular. I have spoken to pastors and church leaders and many consider Johnson as doctrinally sound. This is why the deception is so great.
    All you need is an elderly intelligent, ambitious, cool-collected character with natural persuasive skill (Bill-Johnson-type) and truck loads of unfulfilled pew warmers chasing the REVIVAL carrot to give their otherwise meaningless lives some purpose. Our fulfillment is in Christ alone, not in REVIVAL. He (Christ) is coming soon for those ready and watching. True revival has repentance at heart (Acts 3:19)

  16. Tony Conrad Says:

    Reading about NAR in that they believe God always heals surely is not a heresy. A lack of balance maybe. One of the signs of those that believe is that they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Jesus healed every single person that came to Him. Obviously if our time has come to leave the earth we would not need healing. However, God is sovereign in these things. If God gives us the gifts of healings He is still sovereign and they will operate only in accordance with the Holy Spirit. I have experienced that a few times and people have got healed. We do not have the gift in the natural but through the Holy Spirit. Even Jesus only did what the Father did. It may be a case of going beyond the Holy Spirit and trying to do more in our own strength than what the Spirit is directing?

  17. Adrian Says:

    I’m pleased to see this result, but could someone please define what is meant by “members” of the Center? I ask because 58 votes seems a very low number if it represents much of the congregation.

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