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Twisting the legacy of Billy Graham: End-time apostle and prophet, Lou Engle–The new Billy Graham?

February 21st, 2018 | 24 Comments | Posted in Lou Engle, Miracles/Supernatural Powers

Many of you are grieved, as I am, to hear of Billy Graham’s death. What a legacy he had. I’ve always admired his focus on the pure gospel. Yet I recall words my father told me decades ago. He said to watch, when Billy Graham dies, and see how people will twist his message. Sure enough, even before he died, the New Apostolic Reformation prophet Lou Engle was already trying to get a piece of his legacy. Here’s a reprint of a post I published just over a year ago.


Lou Engle, founder of The Call and a leader in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), has been making an audacious claim to audiences in large stadiums and churches across America: that the “mantle” of the aged Billy Graham is about to fall on him and his followers. In other words, Billy Graham isn’t dead yet and Engle has billed himself as the Holy Spirit’s chosen successor to Graham. Of course, Engle doesn’t word his claim quite that directly; you have to read between the lines. Let me explain.

For those who don’t know, a “mantle,” in the NAR, refers to a special empowerment given by the Holy Spirit to a specific individual for a certain purpose. When that individual dies, the mantle can be given to another person. Think of the transfer of empowerment and leadership between the Old Testament prophets Elijah and Elisha, or between Moses and Joshua.

Billy Graham is seen, by those in the NAR, as having been given a mantle for the effective proclamation of the gospel in large stadiums. But Engle claims God has revealed to him that Graham’s mantle will soon pass, not to just an individual, but to an entire nation. And it won’t be limited to proclamation of the gospel with words; it will be a souped-up mantle for the proclamation of the gospel accompanied by miraculous signs and wonders. The ultimate result of this baton pass will be a spiritual “awakening” and the turning back of America to God. Of course, Engle, who happens to host stadium-sized prayer-and-fasting events through his organization The Call, will receive a pivotal portion of this mantle.

By positioning himself as heir apparent to Graham–one of the most widely respected and admired Christians of all time–Engle is borrowing credibility for the aberrant NAR movement. What’s more, he’s claiming to be a gatekeeper for participation in God’s end-time plans and purposes to transform America and the other nations for Christ. Namely, if you want a share in this mantle, you need to embrace NAR teachings, including the belief that God has revealed to NAR apostles and prophets, like Engle, essential new strategies for transforming the world. If you don’t embrace these new strategies, you’re not going to be a co-recipient of this mantle. In short–in line with other NAR teachings–if you don’t get on board with the new thing God is allegedly doing, you’re missing out.

The present strategy that has been revealed to Engle is the importance of the practice of corporate fasting to see  a release of miraculous power on earth–that is,  thousands of Christians voluntarily abstaining from eating food, or drinking coffee, or taking part in some other form of abstention, for 40 days, so they can open themselves up to the spiritual realm. He discusses this revelation in his new book The Jesus Fast: The Call to Awaken the Nations.

Most recently, Engle promoted his 40-day fast at two services last Sunday hosted by two churches in Fairbanks, Alaska: Mountain Movers of Alaska Church and Door of Hope Church–stops he made during a tour of churches throughout the state. Engle was introduced as an end-time apostle, and also called a prophet. He prophesied that Alaskan churches will play a pivotal role in bringing revival to America through their participation in an upcoming statewide evangelistic initiative called AK One Day–an initiative he has partnered with along with the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Focus on the Family, YWAM, and Every Home for Christ. But to ensure that the outreach will be accompanied by miraculous power, Engle urged those present to take part in a 40-day, NAR-style fast starting on Jan. 2.

One might wonder if the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association knows about Engle’s thinly veiled claims to be a chief recipient and gatekeeper of their founder’s mantle.

See the message Lou Engle posted on his Facebook page today, about Billy Graham’s death.


Holly Pivec is the co-author of A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement and God’s Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement. She has a master’s degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University.


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24 Responses to “Twisting the legacy of Billy Graham: End-time apostle and prophet, Lou Engle–The new Billy Graham?”

  1. roger olson Says:

    i did listen to him. He said on the nation also. I don,t know Lou Engle. Don,t follow him. But i think some of what he said is wrong and some might be right. Listen to all of his face book post you posted. Do we want the whole Gospel to go out or not? and yes i think Signs and Wonders are for today. I see No where in Scripture where they were only for the 1st century. Paul said in 1st Corinthians first chapter verse 7 were all spiritual gifts are all for until the Lord Jesus comes back. Now saying that i said that. i said think Lou Engle must be looked at more on what he teaches and test it against Scripture. Scripture alone is the call. Which is why i like to listen to Dr. White and also Dr.Brown. May all the world come to hear the Gospel of the Lord Jesus, He is the Name by which we must be saved as Peter said in Acts 4.

  2. Holly Says:

    Yes, Roger, he does say the mantle will fall on the whole nation. But, in his teaching, he makes it clear that the mantle will fall on a new breed of evangelists, who embrace his NAR teachings about prayer, fasting, and signs and wonders.

  3. john l Says:

    Your work becomes more and more important as the NAR grows in scope and power. Thank you for being so faithful.

  4. Holly Says:

    Thanks for your encouraging words, john l.

  5. nannette Says:

    Milinda, agreed there are those who did not see Billy as a Christian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68IgZruyNI

  6. G J Says:

    Not all signs and wonders will be true… 2 Thessalonians 2:8-10

    There’s only one True God. Go after the false ones (a.k.a the ecumenical movement) and we’ll become like them… blind and dumb. Psalm 115:4-9

  7. Deena Says:

    I have a family member who has been involved with NAR/third wave teachings for many, many years. All they have displayed is rotten fruit. They have lost all compassion, tenderness, self control etc. They have become void of a conscience and money hungry! They have said and done things that have made me cringe. They are so deluded that they think night is day and day is night. As far as I’m concerned these folks can keep their “mantle”. I would want nothing to do with it! Dave Hunt also addressed their so called “mantle” passing in his book “Occult Invasion”. Maranatha!!!!

  8. Stephanie Says:

    I have been a follower of NAR without even knowing it… I have spoken up for IHOP for years until we lived in the KC area for 15 mo. in 2016/2017 and met with leadership there… so many outsiders in the area call it a cult – I just know that there is no such thing as an “intercessory missionary” in scripture – I gave money to many there who claim this in KC and in Nashville – I woke up to the fact that there is no need to pay for prayer – I just came upon your podcast last week and I’ve been reading entry upon entry on your page – my heart is so broken over the fact that so many young adults are preyed on for this movement – all I can say is “Lord forgive me, and thank You for opening my eyes”

  9. Holly Says:

    Stephanie, thanks for sharing your personal experiences with NAR.

  10. AriseMyLove Says:

    Paying intercessors for prayer is insane; it qualifies as the sin of Simony… and the sacrifice of prayer is nullified.

    There is no position in the New Testament for “Intercessors”… but we are to do as Paul commanded, “pray without ceasing”.

    Paying someone to pray for you is exactly what Peter rebuked Simon Magus for attempting to do… pay for the laying on of hands for the gifting of the Holy Spirit.

    I believe the spirit behind the NAR is Jezebel; she who “calls herself a Prophetess” and “teaches the so called dark things of Satan” but “will not repent” and who is actualized by a familiar or counterfeit spirit of Hell.

  11. nannette Says:
  12. DK Says:

    I was curious about an event going on in my area where Lou Engle was speaking. THhey happened to live stream it on FB. Something Lou Engle said stuck in my head. He said Billy Graham would live to be 100 and then pass on his mantle. He said that he would live until at least Nov (Billy Graham’s birth month).
    They even put the clip on youtube https://youtu.be/6Mj3F-M6CRA
    This was spoken on Monday (2/19/18)

    I guess they’d claim this as a “close enough” prophecy?!?!?!

  13. Linda DeKock Says:


    Why would a world-wide evangelistic effort through those who embrace prayer and fasting for signs and wonders be a concern? Just because it’s the NAR’s teachings about these elements doesn’t make it a bad thing does it? HOW does prayer and fasting for a world wide revival become suspect BY THE CHURCH? Seems to me, the current breed of evangelists(wherever and whoever they are) aren’t getting the job done.

    Luke 9:49-50 “49.And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us. 50. And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.”

    And…regarding the false word about the Reverend Graham being 100 when he died. I think it’s interesting that if you add the 9 months of gestation, Mr. Graham would have been 100, which is not to say that I believe or disbelieve everything about the modern NAR or Prophetic movement, but merely to make THE POINT. In our Christian community, we believe that God believes that life begins at conception. So….just sayin……!

  14. Linda Says:

    I’m not sure I understood you, but adding 9 months to make the prophesy true is ridiculous. Please don’t be offended I did not mean it like that. These guys made a false prophesy and that is a fact. The other point is a so called revival that cannot be true either, although there are people getting saved through the “true” gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)> Tell me Linda what is their gospel? Cause I don’t think they preach it. “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasy) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” 2 Thessalonians 2:3. We need not listen to any of these men they are going down the broad way with their crazy prophesies leading many astray, its a shame.

  15. Patrick Says:

    Preparing the way for evangelism through prayer and fasting is vital. However, if the gospel being preached is wrong, shot through with error, false teaching, heresy, then the prayers and fasting are at best useless or at worst, in lieague with the enemy. As for signs and wonders, they have never been normative. They occured at specific times in the Old Testament (Moses and Joshua, Elijah and Elisha, etc.) and in New Testament, similarly, Jesus performed miracles to authenticate the truth of His message. The current crop of bogus apostles and prophets (who claim their “anointing” or “mantle” not from a Jordan river appearance of a dove over their head, with the voice of God from heaven proclaiming approval, but some other two bit phony) cannot lay claim to proclaiming the true gospel but a gospel that misleads, confuses, condemns. Their signs and wonders are parlor tricks, unverifiable, and often have the hysterical, frightening, chaotic whiff of sulfur about them. You don’t get good fruit from poisoned roots.

  16. Armanda da Roza Says:

    I have been going regularly to a Kingdom Conference in Singapore (but I decided I wont go this year or ever) last year’s speakers were Heidi Baker, Bill Johnson, Ed Silvoso and Lou Engle who I still remember shaking his body all the times as he spoke on stage to prove Holy Spirit was with him. The first two mentioned speakers and Randy Clerk were regular speakers of this conference. Lou Engle impressed everybody with his “testimonies” about organising the Calls in DC. Even I came from a Charismatic background I thought his non-stop shaking was too much.

    We all knew the story of Elijah passing his mantle to Elisha – in NAR practice they liked to tell us we would pray for you and you would receive the impartation or the anointing. Honestly nothing ever happened to me. Then I would be told I was a woman of little faith. Some would say I needed inner healing. I came from Hong Kong, people who learned any form of Asian arts understood Master and pupil system. My years study under my art master, we were really close. I stayed in the studio from morning till night, I worked with him, I watched his movements, I listened attentively to him, I read all the books he passed to me. He let me practised under his watchful eyes. I saw how he created, constructed and put together a work. I basically absorbed liked a sponge. It was a lot of hard works. Later when I had chances to do my own exhibition, people could immediately tell this student’s teacher must be so so. One became like the teacher. Elisha became Elijah with double portion of anointing.

    I am sure Elijah had served his master Elisha similar ways even the Bible did not mention. He stayed with him all day long, learned everything needed and when God felt Elisha was ready, God received Elijah home. There was never any mention to pray to receive impartation of Elijah anointing – it does not work that way. Lou Engle should not even hint to receive Billy Graham’s anointing without ever spent time serving him. NAR people should not teach such thing, but they do, it makes people becomes hopeful and lazy, to gain without works. When nothing happened or worst awful things happened after the impartation prayers, imagine the great disappointment and disillusion the one being prayed for might have. I know for I have been there before.

    Sister Holly, I was so confused and searching and searching. I just knew something not right, but what? I did not even knew the network is called NAR, then one day I came across A New Apostolic Reformation this book and I took more serious research. Wow felt like a hamper just broke up the rock pieces and woke up. I am still not quite out of the disillusion but by His Grace I am sure I will be able unlearn the wrongs and relearn the TRUTH. Thank you – your research is so spot on and good.

  17. Holly Says:

    Armanda, thanks for sharing some of your own experiences in NAR. I’m glad you found our book helpful and eye-opening.

  18. Mike Says:

    Sister Holly,
    We so appreciate your love for our Lord Jesus Christ and the truth of God’s Word. Your work to expose the NAR and related heresy in obedience to Eph. 5:11 is commendable. We are surprised that you have such a favorable opinion of Billy Graham. The Lord has shown us over the last couple of years that while Billy started out preaching the Gospel and nothing but it, he fell into favor with William Randolph Hearst who ordered his publications to “Puff Graham.” This has never been explained how and why. We learned this and much more in YT channel kytekuttertv’s vid titled ‘Billy Graham Exposed(Full Documentary).’ Did you watch/listen to nannette’s short video above in her first comment? If you did, then you heard and saw Billy say many truly troubling and heretical things for yourself. If not, please do and seek our Lord about the truth of the matter. The Lord continue to bless, keep, equip, strengthen, and use you for His glory!

  19. Rosemary Gorman Says:

    The NAR are so focued on the Old Testament prophets and what they did and what God gave them. There is no mention of the new covenant and what Jesus did and their is no mention of the Holy Spirit. In the the new covenant we as Christians have the Holy Spirit dwelling in us not upon us . The prophets of old never experienced what we experience today . As for gifts the Holy Spirit is the gift giver we don’t demand as for mantles which is a prideful act by the NAR ,there are no favourites in Gods kingdom we all have the same anointing. To receive Billy Graham’s mantle is crazy that’s not in the word of God . What is in the word of God is to go into all the world and preach the Gospel and make disciples . Aren’t we told in the word to pray then we are all intercessors there are no special intercessors . Billy Graham did what God asked him to do preach the gospel and he did , many people came to know Jesus because of his obedience . Holly thanks for your blog I love reading what the NAR are getting up to .

  20. . Says:

    The NAR cult is spreading worldwide. Lou Engle is wanted by the Singapore police for questioning.


  21. Alanna Foster Says:

    I could use some prayer. I was in the NAR for approximately 7 years including Lou engles church from when everything began. Before I had a wonderful walk with the Lord. Now after walking away from God (for a season in rebellion) it took me forever to recover from disillusionment. I would give all those years and time back just to be a student of the word and make disciples.

  22. milinda johnson Says:

    I think that this is a good video to help people coming out of the NAR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFKxpkDFAbQ&t=458s She was in Rick Joyner’s church and also worked in Jimmy Swaggart’s church. It took her almost 20 yrs to write a book about what she went through and how she came out of deception from those people. There is a kindle version of her book on Amazon. Hope this helps those seeking truth from lies.

  23. dean Says:

    Billy came out of a jesuit school and said of the pope that he was in heaven, Yet the rcc teaches that christians have no salvation outside the rcc but thru purgatory hindus and muslims can be saved (denying the one who bought them) no christ needed…. billy also talking with ungodly robert schuller said hindus and muslims can go to heaven without ever knowing jesus or his name…. if they seek the only light they know…. say what?…no sorry billy was not a Godly man…. those in the rcc have no salvation and yet billy during the alter calls would send catholics who had left the rcc back to them. thumbs down on billy g…..

  24. Hannah w Says:

    It’s now a year later, and Lou Engle is still predicting the same mantle-thing, based on Billy Graham’s passing (a year ago…).


    He didn’t explain why it’s taking so long for the ‘mantle power’ to manifest. His goal was to advertise the latest mega-gathering of “the Send”.

    That BTW took place last week, and it was the same NAR-star lineup as always: Bill Johnson, Benny Hinn, Todd White, Heidi Baker, Mike Bickle, etc. A big part of it (the last 6+ hours, with the usual crowd manipulation in the usual order) is online, courtesy of Bethel TV.

    The most disturbing part for me came at the very end. The big electronic screen had a message that seemed like a not-too-subtle guilt trip: “THE WAR ON INACTION HAS BEGUN.”

    I.E. if the prophecy of the Billy-Graham-mantle is falling flat, it’s the fault of these poor kids, their own “inaction” that’s delaying it… and they become the enemy in the “war”.

    Lord have mercy.

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