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Listen to my new interview on the NAR with Alisa Childers

February 17th, 2018 | 2 Comments | Posted in Apologetics, Michael Brown

Take a listen to Alisa Childers’ latest podcast, with me, “The New Apostolic Reformation: What It Is and Why We Should Care.”

Alisa’s personal story is inspiring. She’s a lifelong Christian and former CCM recording artist–a member of ZOEgirl–who went through a time of profound doubt about her faith in her mid-30s. She investigated her faith intellectually, developed a well-reasoned and robust faith, and now has an apologetics ministry dedicated to helping others find answers to their tough questions.

I really enjoyed being interviewed by Alisa. She asks great questions. We covered many topics including my response to radio host Michael Brown’s defense of NAR leaders and his claims that the New Apostolic Reformation isn’t the big, concerning movement that critics, like myself, say it is. Here’s the podcast description from Alisa’s website.

There is a movement within Christendom called the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Some Christians believe it’s a true work of God, others are skeptical…others claim it doesn’t exist at all!  My guest, Holly Pivec has written two books on the NAR, and talks with me  about her concerns regarding the teachings and practices of this growing movement.

Listen to the podcast here.


Holly Pivec is the co-author of A New Apostolic Reformation?: A Biblical Response to a Worldwide Movement and God’s Super-Apostles: Encountering the Worldwide Prophets and Apostles Movement. She has a master’s degree in Christian apologetics from Biola University.

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2 Responses to “Listen to my new interview on the NAR with Alisa Childers”

  1. Christian K Reyes Says:

    Are there present day Apostles?
    It’s frustrating for me to permanently land on either side of the debate.
    The arguments for the cessation of the Apostolic office has its strengths.
    But so do the arguments for its continuation.

    If present day Apostleship solely concerns Church governorship, then it simply is another ecclesiastical model along side Congregationalism, Presbyterianism and Episcopalism. This is fine by me. Unfortunately, they all come with their own set of abuse and baggage.

    But if it expands its purview to matters of revelation then things get sticky. I think you can hold both progressive revelation and the canon of scripture together. Provided that the Canon always functions as a ‘norma normans’ whereas all purported revelation is deemed ‘norma normata’. Much in the way a carpenter holds a measuring tape in one hand and a piece of lumber in another. If present day apostles do not subject their ‘revelation’ to this rule than let them be anathema.

  2. Anne Marie Helmsworth Says:

    Error is like leaven, of which we read, “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.” Truth mixed with error is equivalent to all error, except that it is more innocent looking and, therefore, more dangerous. God hates such a mixture! Any error, or any truth-and-error mixture, calls for definite exposure and repudiation. To condone such is to be unfaithful to God and His Word and treacherous to imperiled souls for whom Chris died.

    Henry Ironside

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