12 resurrections? Show me the evidence

open graveI’ve written before about the Dead Raising Team–a NAR organization, led by Tyler Johnson, that trains people to go to funeral homes, morgues, and family homes where bodies are being kept and raise the dead by offering “prayers of resurrection.” The teams claim to have seen 12 resurrections to date, as a result of their prayers. See this astounding claim made on the website here.

All I have to say in response to this is, show me the evidence. The Dead Raising Team, curiously, offers no evidence to back up their claim. Not one shred. Why is that? Do they seriously expect people to just take them at their word that something so extraordinary has occurred–not just once, but 12 times? Have Christians become so gullible?

Christians, of all people, should demand evidence to confirm any miracle claims. Such evidence should be publicly verifiable. To not expect such evidence is foolish. And to not offer such evidence lacks integrity, to say the least.

Our entire faith is based on the claim of a resurrection–of Jesus. His resurrection is a historical fact that is corroborated with compelling evidence. We should be concerned whenever Christians turn off their minds and stop demanding evidence to support their beliefs.

 

 

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13 Responses to “12 resurrections? Show me the evidence”

  1. John Says:

    Curious. From the DRT web site it seems “spending hours in the IHOP prayer rooms” is a qualification.

    Is Tyler Johnson related to “his hero” Bill Johnson?

    I wonder whether they ever fail to raise the dead, and whether such failure compounds the grief of those left behind as they suffer what has to be the worst kind of crushed hope imaginable.

  2. Len Says:

    One can even attend the School of Resurrection. But a true believer in the Gospel of Jesus Christ would not even want to be resurrected to this life. We want the resurrection that is taught in the Scriptures. “Now we do not want you to be uninformed, brothers, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you be sorrowful as those who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, thus also God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord shall by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. Because the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we shall always be with the Lord. So then comfort one another with these words.” (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, EMTV)

  3. Lynn Starr Says:

    http://www.deadraisingteam.com/DRT/Info.html

    And of course the endorsements on their website include IHOP, Iris Ministries (Heidi Baker) and Bethel Church-Bill Johnson! We must be discerning!

  4. Holly Says:

    Lynn,

    Yes, the page you pointed to does contain an audio recording of praise for the Dead Raising Team from Bill Johnson. The others listed on that page aren’t endorsements, but links to other organizations.

  5. Kevin Says:

    And what is the purpose of these purported resurrections… to glorify God? Or to glorify those who claim to perform the resurrections? Is it so they can declare themselves “apostles” giving them credibility in the teachings they then proclaim are direct revelation from God? It seems far more self-glorification than God glorifying. It appears to be an attempt to become more important in one’s own eyes and in the eyes of man.
    My home church offered a class (for $250.00) that taught participants how they can heal the sick and raise the dead. The senior pastor had taken the class previously and brought into the church and highly promoted the class, several other pastors took the class. I asked one pastor if he really believed what the class taught. His reply was, “it is not the pastor’s job to tell people what they need to believe but to offer many options and let people choose for themselves what to believe. Not everyone taking the class believed everything taught in the class but we chose to believe the parts we want to believe”. Sadly, that same methodology appears to be use when studying the bible. 
     The senior pastor stated that it is his desire to use whatever means necessary to bring as many people as possible into the church in hope that eventually some might be saved. And sadly that includes every new doctrine that is created by man: seeker sensitive methods, special concerts, comedians, sex education for adults, spiritual healing classes, dead raising classes, etc.
     I am left disheartened to see that my pastors, who are to be the leaders and shepherds and who are to be the gate-keepers of truth in the church have eagerly opened the doors to all sorts of “strange fire” teaching (a.k.a. Deception).  
     We are missionaries in South America and we are witnesses the same teachings entering the churches here. We are discovering that the greatest need for missionaries to share the truth about Jesus Christ may not be the world but our own home church.

  6. Shane Says:

    The only things these DRT Teams raise is their lying false babbling voices. They are part of this NAR universalism philosophy which is steeped in Hindu shiva (the destroyer) religion. They are just tares (Matthew 13). These fakes will eat the seeds of the tares (the fruit of the flesh) & die spiritually & physically. Be a barking dog (Isaiah 56: 9-12) to any Christian gazing at, or who has eaten from the tree of knowledge (tree of evil)…. Yep, it will certainly make you an outcast to most. Just ask holly..!

    Stand your ground.

  7. mo smith Says:

    I know these people and their teachings. Stay away from them! They give big glorious testimonies, to get gullible people who will believer anything, to follow them. Almost all of their testimonies are not verified but the stories are impressive enough to get some to believe them. However, I do believe in the gifts of the Spirit and the signs that will follow a believer, such as healing the sick and raising the dead. The dead raising we don’t see much. I do know of a woman who prayed her dead husband back from the dead. He was dead for several minutes (verifiable). He had a testimony to what he saw and there was no departure from scripture attempted to be taught. But, the dead raising teams seams ridiculous to me. I agree with what Kevin has said in his first few sentences. They really do love the attention they get from their stories. I have heard Bill Johnson say that “it is ok to embellish for the Lord” – your testimony he is talking about. Well I think this may be the case almost all the time.

    From someone who has left the charismatic church because of these people who have taken it over

  8. M.K. Says:

    Mo, I hear ya! I’m an escapee too LOL. Like you I still believe in the gifts of the Spirit. I’m not a cessationist which is why I’m grateful Holly avoided that in her books. John MacArthur argued for cessationism full well in his Strange Fire book.

    I think a lot of real miracles happen but people don’t talk about them much. I saw something wonderful happen (not dead raising but I think it was a healing) with my daughter but I never talk about it much because she wasn’t fully diagnosed at the time. The evangelists talk about glory to God but the glory seems to stick to the evangelist claiming the healing.

    In my daughter’s case I never knew the preachers name who came to town, conducted a meeting because he said God told him to, mid week. My ex pastor mentioned it briefly the Sunday before, and on that Monday the dr gave us very bad news. He thought it was a brain tumour, spreading rapidly but needed more xrays etc to make sure. Wednesday my daughter was in the end of a long line of people that were there for all kinds of things (most of which I saw in evidence later). By midnight he laid hands on her. She was healed fully then as I know now by experience, but I lived in fear for quite a while and I went back for x rays and so forth which were all negative. The dr’s couldn’t explain it and for some reason even though I tried to talk about it to my ex pastor he didn’t seem to hear, neither did the prayer leader and I gave up and like Mary, pondered in my heart. DD is grown up, married, healthy and mother of 3 little ones raising them in the Lord at a little country Baptist church she and her dh go to. She will be homeschooling the oldest in the fall.

    You know that problem with Bill Johnson saying its Ok to embellish for the Lord, that is lying, encouragement to LIE!

    but I’m not surprised. My ex pastor used to joke about “evangelastic”. Maybe that is why God prevented him from really grabbing hold of what had happened to our daughter. Because she wasn’t fully diagnosed yet, and because all the tests after that were clear it was very difficult to say what really happened. I think God healed her, and I don’t know why her and not others but it’s God’s place to know when we die.

    It’s no joke though about embellishing, and a true man of God would preach against it.

    Just ask Brian Williams and NBC whether a little embellishment is OK. He is losing his job as news anchor for NBC, and it’s tarnished their reputation as a news source.

    Lies are from the enemy. God doesn’t need or take help from Satan as Jesus pointed out when Satan tried to tempt Him.

    Holly I was delighted when you brought up the business of truth being verifiable in another entry on this site. Something about your dd’s homeschool science course. (BTW we homeschooled our 2 thru high school and it’s something dh and I and our kids have never regretted)

    If this is of God, it can stand up to scrutiny. If this is the truth then let the truth speak, but if it’s another scam, we’ve already had far too many Elmer Gantry types running amok in the churches and scams or “embellishments” don’t glorify God, they make the church a laughing stock and a byword!

  9. mo smith Says:

    Hi M.K.

    Thanks for the reply to what I wrote. I have seen you write in another post before. I liked hearing of your story of healing in your family. I have had numerous healings in my life and my family. I won’t talk about them here unless someone was serious to want to hear them to help their faith. I really really believe in a parent having the most power to heal their children, rather than waiting for some healing preacher. The parent has the most mercy and compassion for their child. In saying that it is God healing them but through our using the authority he gave us in his name. I know Baptists who believe in the gifts, not all are cessassionists. I’m not a fan of John MacArthur; my opinion he doesn’t have balance. Too critical.

    Anyway, even if I don’t give a testimony about God healing my children and if people don’t believe it I am GLAD HE HEALED them! I love them and don’t care if anybody believes it; actually I wish they would believe for their sake but if they don’t oh well.

    Blessings

  10. Steve Says:

    Raising the dead is a New Testament miracle.   Why exactly do you want to attack someone for testifying of a miracle.  This really petty.

  11. Al Says:

    Why do we call these people “Christians” who believe this stupidity or take the so called NAR prophets seriously?

  12. Joe Says:

    If you travel to India, even with Western missionaries, you’ll see quite a bit of this. Sure, there are videos and testimonies available but what’s great are the believers and their faith for Jesus. It’s not the tepid Western faith, it’s real and powerful. Faith greater than a mustard seed.

  13. Daniel Marsh Says:

    why only 12?   When they likely have more than 12 members.

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