Children, Miracles, and Toilet Paper Mummies– Oh My!

child shockedYou may already know that apostles and prophets in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement promote spiritual exercises designed to help people tap into the Holy Spirit’s powers,  such as prophesying, healing the sick, and raising the dead. But did you know these same exercises are being taught to children?

A major reason they want children to develop supernatural powers is because of prophecies within the movement about children.

God is raising up a “spiritual delta force”—an elite company of children to lead His end-time army, according to prophets such as Rick Joyner, Bill Hamon and Catherine Brown.

Many of them teach that the present generation of children will make up the last generation of the church. So, they must be trained for their pivotal role in taking dominion. This training includes turning them into an army of miniature miracle workers. Joyner writes:

Young children will cast out demons, heal the sick, raise the dead, and divert raging floods with a word. Some will actually take dominion over entire hospitals and mental institutions, healing every patient in them by laying hands on the buildings. (The Apostolic Ministry, 168-172)

Some NAR organizations that target children are:

  • Bethel Church (Redding, California): Sunday School classes are “practice rooms for the supernatural.” The children talk with angels, interpret each others’ dreams, and practice raising the “dead” by wrapping themselves in toilet paper, like mummies. Hear the activities described by the senior children’s pastor, Seth Dahl, and director of children’s ministries, Deborah Reed.
  • Kids in His Presence (Thompsons Station, Tennessee): Mike and Marilyn Seth created an entire Sunday School curriculum of NAR teachings and miracle-working exercises for children ages 6-11. And another resource, called “My Heart is a Bucket,” is used for children as young as preschool-aged.
  • Kids in Ministry International (Mandan, North Dakota): Becky Johnson started “Power Clubs” to teach children to “walk in the supernatural.” These clubs are held weekly in Pentecostal and charismatic churches in 18 nations. As of 2012, there were 457 Power Clubs, with 23,000 children.
  • Good News Ministries (Macon, Georgia): Apostle David Walters claims he has led thousands of youth, children and adults into the “realm of the supernatural” through his church workshops, children’s crusades, and family seminars.

But some people might wonder why the instruction offered by these NAR organizations is troubling. After all, it is perfectly natural for parents to want to train up their children in their beliefs by taking them to church-based programs, like Sunday School and Awana.

The instruction is troubling because the NAR teachings are not those of historic, biblical Christianity. Rather, they come from a counterfeit version of Christianity that has redefined Jesus, faith, and the gospel. If the children persist in these wrong understandings, then they will be in danger of thinking they are “just fine” with God and yet never understand what it means to really know Him.

In other words, they could grow up to be like the people Jesus warned about in Matthew 7:22-23:

Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

This is serious stuff.

I will look at specific teachings aimed at children in upcoming posts.

— By Holly Pivec

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11 Responses to “Children, Miracles, and Toilet Paper Mummies– Oh My!”

  1. Michelle Says:

    So tragic and sad!!  Again, false signs and wonders are used to deceive.  But it is almost unbearable to see this done to children!

    Matthew 18:5-7 (ESV)

    5 “Whoever receives one such child in my name receives me, 6 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.”
    But, again, the question I asked through the contact page:  does the term “false signs and wonders” imply “true signs and wonders?”

  2. Holly Says:


    I’m glad you referenced Matthew 18:5-7. The same verse came to my mind as I was writing this post, and I think it is very fitting.

    Yes, I believe the Bible is clear that there are true signs and wonders, as well as false ones. In addition to the False Prophet, who will perform false signs and wonders in the last days (Revelation 13:11-15), Revelation also foretells the rise of “two witnesses” who will perform true signs and wonders (Revelation 11:3-12).


  3. Sherryn@thenarrowingpath Says:

    I agree completely, the NAR cult is very serious and is the fruit of a spiritual trainwreck reaching its peak. There are definitely spirits at work in this movement, as there are in the world, and these children are being recklessly exposed to them. Most of us are acutely aware of how powerful a child’s imagination is, and also how influential adults are in a child’s life. Combine this with unbiblical and occult practices and you get a spiritually dangerous situatin for these young children. It repulses me in the same way as adults who exploit their children through modelling, acting or beauty pageants. I shudder to think what kind of adults this will produce, and the spiritual abuses these children are at risk of.

    If it seems harsh calling this a cult, please read “The Other Side of the River” by Kevin Reeves ( You can also check the archives at Stand Up For The Truth for two radio interviews he did with Amy Spreeman. His is but one of countless stories being shared around the world, by concerned believers who have been saved out of this movement. The evidence is damning. So are the teachings and practices.

    Let’s keep praying for these people, and for the many true believers amongst them who are either being deceived themselves or who have loved ones who are. Thankfully our dear Lord and Saviour will not lose a single soul that the Father has given him!

  4. Sherryn@thenarrowingpath Says:

    Holly, thanks for this article. I reposted it at my blog with, and included a link to the Australian counterpart of Kids in Ministry International. The link is here for Aussies who want to see it with their own eyes: I will shortly doing an article looking at how extensive this is in Australia. Let me know if you are interested and I will send the relevant link when it is done. I am finding it hard to hear voices raised against these false teachings here in Australia, although I am sure there are some! (If you are readng this and are an Aussie…let me know who you are!!)

    Holly, thanks for your ongoing work. I have no doubt it comes at great cost. May the Lord continue to bless you and keep you in faithfulness to Him.

  5. Holly Says:


    I’m encouraged that you are contending for the faith in Australia. I understand that the NAR movement has a stronghold there. Yes, please send me the link to your article when you finish it. I look forward to seeing it. Thanks for your words of encouragement!


  6. Michelle Says:


    Thank you SO much for answering my question about signs and wonders.  I was really struggling with this.  I found myself praying, “Lord, how are those who are weak, or who don’t really know your Word have any chance?  Most of your people have never seen true signs and wonders.  How will those who see the last days signs and wonders have any chance at all?” 

    Even as I thought that and prayed that, I sensed in my spirit that I wasn’t thinking clearly about it.  When I read your response, I thought, “Duh! Of course!”  God is loving and just and will not leave anyone without a way to know the truth, if they choose to know. 

    Again, thank you!

  7. A. S. Says:

    Michelle I am encouraged by your posts about ” people prefacing their reports of their experiences with ” I know Michelle will say this is not in the Bible but…. I have had this response from people too. Sadly it seems that some would rather stay in error. It’s easier that way. Your more popular. Your family doesn’t get mad at you. Worldly people want to hang out with you. It’s okay to believe that God doesn’t have a problem with greediness and coveting. I guess what I’m saying is how heartbreaking it is that people want to believe that stuff rather than the truth. The New age teachings of the NAR and other groups who are beginning to join up like a vast network of buddies are just exactly what Jesus warned believers about. Satan has a flavor for everyone and the ecumenical movement to join all into one giant religious hodgepodge is gaining momentum. i believe that God will bring them out who really love Him and want the truth. Don’t be discouraged when people don’t want to hear it. Some will hear and it will be worth it. If only people would read their Bibles and test the experiences they have through that filter. The NAR and seven mountain teachers and all the rest would not be able to stand up to that scrutiny. Clearly the Theology they teach does not line up with the warnings Jesus gave about the time we live in. God speed to you and Holly too! Thank you for standing up and sounding the warning! God Bless

  8. Ray Bovino Says:

    I think we have lost perspective here.  Over the years I have spent a good amount of time in youth ministry and it’s quite sad today to see the deplorable condition of young people.  They know more about the different levels of the latest video game than basic Bible truths.  They are quickly becoming addicted not only to video games, but TV, junk food, sex, alcohol, drugs and having their own way.  Now some bold churches are teaching their young people how to get closer to God and actually minister to others in the supernatural and to some people that is a problem!  Sorry, I know what it’s like to have a diagnosed severe medical condition and be supernaturally healed in moment because it happened to me.  Thank you Jesus.  
    I have seen a child pray for another child who was sick and the fever immediately leave.  Thank you Jesus, once again!  Yet when other believers take the initiative to train their young people to minister in all the gifts of God including the supernatural, some of you take that as cultic.  No, the problem is the church in America as a whole has been for years compromised, anemic and unbelieving.  Read your Bible.  See the things Jesus did.  See what his disciples did in his name.  Read his words when he said of his own works that we his disciples would do greater things.  Instead of sitting in the seat of judgment because others are doing what has been by practice and belief missing in your life, repent of judging your brothers and sisters in Christ, get on your face and ask forgiveness and ask the Lord to fill your life and the church with ALL he has to offer.  
    Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever.  The greatest thing is love and ought to always be our number one priority, but that does not mean we should throw the supernatural out the window.  More people will come to Christ when they not only see our love for one another but when they also experience his supernatural power, and yes, how much more when through the faith and obedience of children!  Then with Paul we too can say, “My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.” 1 Corinthians 3:4

  9. Teresa Says:

    Thank you, Ray Bovino.  I couldn’t have expressed it better.  Having lived most of my life (particularly since becoming a Believer in JesusChrist) in the United States, I can attest that your assessment of the powerlessness of Believers there.   Lots of good doctrine, not much to show it.   Jesus said if they didn’t believe His words, then to believe Him for the works/miracles  they saw Him do.    It is amazing to be with Christian Believers who love God and are running after Him and ALL He has said we have available to us in His Word.     I keep being sent articles from this blog.  I read them to EXAMINE myself, as I believe we should do according to His Word. After reading another article derogatory of Bill Johnson, Bethel, etcetera…I simply prayed and asked our Lord about it. He spoke to my heart that He allows the tares and wheat to grow together.  He has made it His task to pluck the tares at the end.   There were some other words that came, but the gist was about my journey thus far. When my children were growing up, we changed churches several times because of doctrinal differences. We were actually encouraged to seek out ‘ doctrinally pure’ churches by just about every church/para- church ministry to which we were exposed.  Most all thought that they had the ‘Truth’. It seems there is a “mixture” in most every place.   That’s why He says, ‘Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”.    The Berean’s were commended because they checked behind even the Apostle Paul’s teachings.     The World will know we are Christians by our love for one another…not our perfect doctrine on every jot and tittle.   There is so much in-fighting in the American church, no wonder there has been no power.    But God…… As a bit of an ironic side-note, I Googled the teachers recommended in the last article  as teachers of ‘Truth’.   (after a long explanation of why others were false)  Every one I searched had articles on the internet referring to them as ‘false teachers/prophets’!   So sad….

  10. Tony Says:

    My family has been spiritually messed up since we went to an NAR church – fortunately we left, but my wife still believes this doctrine.  They visited a church last summer in VT of all places that was a “clone” of Bethel. The service lasted over four hours and they had nothing for the children officially. They baptised my six year old son who still has no real understanding of the Christian faith because he wanted to be like all the other kids there. Their celebration of communion is a joke – a total disregard of the sacredness and importance of this sacrament!
    Now they claim the dead are raised, but have never offered one iota of proof! They claim all sorts of miraculous healings, but again it’s all hearsay – didn’t even Jesus tell the healed leper to go and show himself to the priests as was precribed by Moses? I’ve never heard one testimony save for “I had a sore neck and now the pain is gone.” I went to a so called “revival” and all sorts of people came forward for healing of backs, necks, stiffness, etc. Meanwhile a blind woman sat nearby in a wheelchair totally ignored. Not once did they ever preach the gospel! And this passes for church??

  11. Alexandra Says:

    I came across this site by accident.

    You write that “children talk with angels, interpret each others’ dreams, and practice raising the “dead” by wrapping themselves in toilet paper, like mummies” at Bethel. 

    Sometimes, we mess up…sure. Maybe little Johnny isn’t really talking to an angel. But why shut him down? What good will it do to seal off the spiritual world like it doesn’t exist?

    Mary spoke with an angel.

    Joseph interpreted dreams.

    The disciples practiced doing the things that Jesus did.

    The word “Christian” means “little Christ.” I don’t think the early church was full of people telling people to ask Jesus into their hearts and obey the Ten Commandments (ahem, Evangelicals.) The early church was working with Holy Spirit to usher in God’s Kingdom. Jesus came to destroy the works of the enemy, and Jesus is in you and me, so we get to help.

    Christianity isn’t about trying to be good. It’s about thinking the thoughts of the Father so that our minds are renewed, and we can do the stuff that Jesus did.

    I love you, but would urge you to consider that Jesus wasn’t an apologetic. He did the Father’s will.

    Also, if you’re interested in another movement to investigate, I’m involved with the Vineyard church. We have a discipleship class called School of Kingdom Ministry that would really challenge your thinking and your experiences with Holy Spirit.

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