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Magic Charms Enchant Apostolic-Prophetic Movement

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In 2007, I reported on an alarming trend that continues today — the growing use of magic charms and other occult practices in the apostolic-prophetic movement. Read the article, published by the Christian Research Journal, here.

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  1. Douglas Reeder Says:

    You can wash a pig, but in the end it’s still a pig Many in the last days will come in the name of Jesus, as do these devils, but their end will be destruction… for ever and ever!
    Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. etc; By their fruits you will know them.
    If you study Gods word daily and pray the  Holy Spirit to illuminate your understanding, you wont go wrong… If you have a pure heart towards God.
    Amen

  2. Ruitje Says:

    The apostolic-prophetic movement is becoming an new age religion. Chuck Pierce is selling special jewelry and special anointing oils. It is strange fire, gnostic. Chuck Pierce is using terminology and the special jewish dates from kabalah.

    Interesting is the website from Joan McFatter. It is clear that this looks very new age, also what she writes about sound and the vibration.

    They are like Simon the Sorcerer… trying to buy and sell the anointing. But in this case it’s a false anointing.

  3. A_Disciple Says:

    Hi Holly, great article.

    The whole chapter of Ezekiel 13 deals with false prophets who prophecy lies out of their own heart, convinced they are hearing from God, yet self decieved.

    But at the end of that chapter Ezekiel spoke of the following, and until now, I always thought that while we had certainly met the criteria for the first part of the chapter, that the last bit of the chapter did not quite fit our times. Now I’m thinking that the whole chapter fits our time rather well based on your article.

    Ezk. 13:17-19 “Likewise, son of man, set your face against the daughters of your people, who prophesy out of their own heart; prophesy against them, and say, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “Woe to the women who sew magic charms on their sleeves and make veils for the heads of people of every height to hunt souls! Will you hunt the souls of My people, and keep yourselves alive? And will you profane Me among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, killing people who should not die, and keeping people alive who should not live, by your lying to My people who listen to lies?”

  4. Paul Says:

    This was another fantastic article. In my opinion,  the people that promote the use of ” anointed healing oil , ” wooden stakes” ( Buy one set now, and get an extra set for free, that will rid your home of vampires ! ), and all other forms of gimmickry,  are guilty of introducing pagan practices into Christianity. Some refer to this as ” New Age “, but I see nothing ” new ” about it. It is just another name for the same old pagan practices of witchcraft, which have been around for thousands of years.

    And aside from the fact that these ” Handy Dandy Cure Alls ” generate revenue for certain ” prophets “, the truly sad thing to realize is that there are well meaning people who are so desperate for help, that they turn to these snake oil salesmen with high hopes.

    And when the magically  anointed chopsticks and miraculous  prayer rugs fail to produce results, people blame themselves for not having enough faith. That is when the spiritual damage is done, and some never recover from it. This is NOT in accordance with anything that Jesus Christ ever said, or did.

  5. Carolyn Says:

    Several years ago, I had a lady and her 3 boys who were in need, come and stay in our basement apartment. She opened up a whole different world to me…not a good thing. She was into what I now consider the Christian occult and did spiritual warfare full time. Her boys were always seeing shadows in doorways or some mystical apparition such as flames in the ceiling. It was creepy! Anyhow, she told me that I should anoint all my windows with oil (anything I had in the house would do – I understand the marketeers have moved into this lucrative sales opportunity now, but back then I could use a household product). I declined as I had never felt the need to in the past. Just before dozing off to sleep that night, a black mist floated through my window and hovered above me. I was petrified for a moment and then spoke the name of Jesus. The mist evaporated. You may not believe that story, but it was an occult experience that was all too real for me. Incidently, that woman stirred up so much strife while she was at my house,  I had to ask her to leave.
    Anyhow,  I agree with some of the above comments, that there is nothing new to the new Christian occult practices. In Biblical terms they are called magic spells, star gazers, secret arts, divination, witchcraft, enchanters, etc. and if you look up these terms in the dictionary, they are the very same sorceries that Christians are practising today. Today they may sell them as “kits that contain anointing oil and wood stakes, with Scripture verses on them, to drive into the borders of a property.” Or they may call them word faith, contemplative, transformational, five fold or new prophetic…but it is the same old package, just a different wrapper. Some serious warnings for all who practice such.

    Isaiah 47:11-13

     
    11 Disaster will come upon you, 
    and you will not know how to conjure it away. 
    A calamity will fall upon you 
    that you cannot ward off with a ransom; 
    a catastrophe you cannot foresee 
    will suddenly come upon you.
    12 “Keep on, then, with your magic spells 
    and with your many sorceries, 
    which you have labored at since childhood. 
    Perhaps you will succeed, 
    perhaps you will cause terror.
    13 All the counsel you have received has only worn you out! 
    Let your astrologers come forward, 
    those stargazers who make predictions month by month, 
    let them save you from what is coming upon you.

  6. Kurt Says:

    I have watch these false prophets and visited their websites.  How sad it is that they are that deceived, how much sadder that they are seeking and making good on deceiving other-usually deceiving them of their hard earned cash.  
    The biggest problem is the churchs for the most part are not standing up to these occult practises, as they surely are not christian and are not biblical.  It is witchcraft and eastern religion at its best.  They are attempting to manipulate G-d.  They believe that if they say their little chants etc. then G-d has to respond, but, they missed the part where G-d is soverign and can not be controled by man.  Worthless chants and idols who can neither talk hear, or see.
    It appears that pastors and other church leaders are afraid of saying anything unless it is a true movement of the Holy Spirit and they find themselves criticizing anf fighting against G-d.  However, the bible tells us to study what everyone says and see if it comports to the word of G-d.  Additionally, we are to have nothing to do with someone who is preaching another gospel.  As was said to Simeon the socceror, may your money parish with you, if you think the power of the Holy Spirit can be bought.  The church leaders need to start sheparding their flocks and call these followers of another Jesus and another gospel then taught in the Bible for what they are; deceivers leading the blind.  Who knows they may even get them to show their true colors-although it cannot be more obvious to people who know their Bibles, and write there own Bible once pastors start pointing out the KJV and others do not say what they are claiming.  My Bible clearly says my G-d, the creator G-d, cannot be manipulated.  If their god can be manipulated, then they must be worshiping another god.
    People like Bentley, King, Schultz, Bob Jones and the rest of their deciples and mentors hopefully enjoy their riches and fame now from attemptiong to sell G-d’s anointing, blessings, and the blood of Jesus, because after this life comes the judgment. It is guaranteed they will be coming face to face with G-d.  And, G-d warns in his book that it is a fearful thing to fall  into the hands of an angery G-d.  Eternity is a long time compared to the short time we spend on earth.
    For by grace are you saved and not of works lest any man should boast.  So how can they justify selling the things of G-d, which we are freely given?  

  7. Leah Says:

    I think we need to seriously pray for these people.  They are led astray and are deceived.  We should be praying for their eyes to be opened, not condemning them to eternal hell.
    As Christians, we WANT these people to be saved, to turn from their wicked ways.  It is wonderful that many Christians are waking up to this apostacy and seeing the Truth.

    Yet, think of those who are deceived.  Will they always be deceived?  Or will our prayers make a difference and move God to turn their hearts toward Him?

  8. Mark Says:

    Jesus warned us of such as this in the end times, why are we suprised? Is the Antichrist spirit  not at work in these people’s hearts as false christs?? Here we are looking for 666 and its right at our back door.

  9. Robin Says:

    I have recently come out of a setting that dealt in all of these practices.  Very scary indeed – and alarming.  Another item I was going to mention was a neclace much like the one pictured that a friend had bought for me when she visited Bethel Church in Redding.  It had been “prophesied” over, however there was nothing coming with the necklace telling you what the prophecy was.  I don’t condone the necklace now either way, with or without a detailed-account of what was “prophesied.”  Needless to say, the necklace went out with the garbage…

  10. DeeAnn Says:

    I’ve read a lot of stuff on your web site and I’m impressed.  I’m impressed with the disdain, (or shall we call it what it is – hate) you have towards other people whether they claim Jesus is the only way to salvation or not.  Wow, just wow.

    You also have a very deceptive practice of picking out one person who is doing something wrong and then adding the names of three or four others who normally would condemn such actions but making it look like they are giving whole hearted approval to those actions.

    I honestly believe the people who frequent here will be burning me and my children at the stake a few years as the inquisition did so many who sought to find God in the secret place.

  11. Ruitje Says:

    @DeeAnn, not we will burn you at the stake, but the charismatics that believe the lie of the civil war and Dominion that Rick Joyner and people like Bob Jones are preaching. You should do some research and pray.

  12. Paul Says:

    DeeAnn says ” ( or shall we call it what it is – hate ” ). With all do respect to you, DeeAnn, show me ONE example of someone who has posted a ” hateful and deceptive “, comment.

    And since  when is offering an opinion that is different from your own considered ” hateful and deceptive ” ? 

    And I am offended and insulted by your idiotic remark that says ” I honestly believe the people who frequent here will be burning me and my children at the stake a few years as the inquisition did  so many who sought to find God in the secret place “.

    You make good, God fearing people, sound like the wretched  Nazis ! And you also insult those poor souls who suffered and died, during the witchcraft persecutions.

    Shame on you for the things that you imply – your thoughts and writings are repulsive to me. Our Lord commanded us to be compassionate towards one another, but he never said that we were to allow slander and libel, to go unchallenged.

  13. Leah Says:

    Well, I agreed with most of the comments here, except DeeAnn’s, but then Ruitje says charismatics will burn DeeAnn and her family at the stake?!!!
    What’s with that?
    There is much too much judgment and condemnation going on here, at least in the comments.  I am astonished to see how Christians behave when there is an open forum to tear others theological differences apart.
    It is my believe that God can use ANYBODY, including idiots (if thats what you call them) like Rick Joyner or Benny Hinn, to lead others to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.  The only problem I have with those televangelist is that they are obviously not sitting in someones living room discipling them as new converts.

    Burn at the stake, DeeAnn?  You may be right.  With the lashing out that occured after your comment, I’m ashamed to be writing in these comments.  I believe the way others lash out at one another on the internet is not how they would handle the situation in their own living rooms, at least, I pray they wouldn’t.  However, that is no excuse for poor internet etiquette. 

    Should we all burn DeeAnn at the stake now?  Or has it already been done?  Looks to me like she’s gotten a pretty good roasting.  How about we save the judgment of ordinary people to God.
    What Holly tries to do on this blog, I believe, is to show us the ways that prominent Christian leaders may be leading us the wrong way.  I believe she uses the Word to back up her accusations, and I find nothing wrong with warning fellow believers about a Spirit of Error.

  14. Mark Says:

    On the other hand maybe the prophet Elijah should had had been arrested for his severe treatment of the prophets of Baal.

    If Elijah or Paul was here  I am sure the “Apostolic/Prophetic” movement would be dealt with accordingly and there would be no niceties envolved. Woe unto those who by offences come.

  15. Leah Says:

    John said, Master, we saw a man driving out demons in Your name and we commanded him to stop it, for he does not follow along with us. But Jesus told him, Do not forbid [such people]; for whoever is not against you is for you.

    …And when His disciples James and John observed this, (that a Samaritan village would not receive Jesus on His way to Jerusalem to become God’s Passover Lamb) they said, Lord, do You wish us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, even as Elijah did ? [II Kings 1:9-16.] But He turned and rebuked and severely censored them. He said, You do not know of what sort of spirit you are, for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them… (Luke 9:49-56 AMP) (Insert mine.)

  16. Paul Says:

    Leah, I agree with some of the things that you said in your comments ( August 4th, 2010, 8:47pm ), but not all..

    I’m not sure why you said ” I am astonished to see how Christians behave when there is an open forum to tear others theological differences apart”.

    DeeAnn did not present a theological argument – she simply accused people who comment on this blog of, ” hate and deception “, without citing one example of such.
    She also said that we desire to see “her and her children, burned at the stake “. Why not just call us a bunch of Nazis ?

    That is simply horrible, and disgusting. I wish no ill will towards any of my fellow human beings, and for her to say that I wish to see her and “her children burned at the stake”, because I call it like I see it, is an affront to me. It is intellectually dishonest. I don’t know about you, but I don’t appreciate being likened to the fiend Hitler.

    You also said ” How about we save the judgment of ordinary people to God ? “. I say,who is unordinary, in the sight of God ?

    I think that your way of thinking is a big part of the problem, that confronts the Christian Church today. Clearly, DeAnn is way off base with her comments. Yet, being candid about that, is somehow taking Gods place.. I am not supposed to judge something that someone says, because that’s Gods job..This smacks of political correctness ( where everything is subjective ).

    Also, I have no problem whatsoever, telling anyone  (politely), about what I think..whether it’s face to face, or over the internet – on any given subject.

    I sincerely hope that you ( and all of my brothers, and sisters in Christ ), become more vocal and aggressive, about not allowing slander and libel ( and demonstrably false teachings ), to go unchallenged.

    Whether it comes from a well known False prophet / False teacher, or an ordinary person – like DeeAnn.

  17. Ruitje Says:

    @Leah, do some research on Greys and Blues, civil war and Rick Joyner and you will be schocked… And than compare that with teachings from Alice Bailey, the ‘mother’ of New Age about christians and people that will not go with the New Age and the age of Aquirius.

  18. Jim Says:

    There is so much deception coming into the church(es) … We must speak out, with a warning of the false teachings, and even name names. You see, many of these false ministers are all intertwined together, each with their own twist of distortion the scriptures — Todd Bentley and Patricia King, and their associates, are involved in some very dangerous practices, beliefs and teachings, which are smoking with flames of sulfur ….

  19. Jim Says:

    It’s easy for so many people to get carried away by every wind of doctrine, when they are not reading the Bible for themselves, daily, and prayerfully. It’s time to get back to the Bible people …. The Bible is the final authority, not somebody who claims to have new revelations …

  20. binsurobinson Says:

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    Enjoyed reading this .. you would love to read more on <ahref=http://shyjumathew.com/blog/2010/08/24/developing-the-prophetic-ear>Developing the Prophetic Ear</a> .. I have backlinked the phrase to help you find it easily J

  21. binsurobinson Says:

    Enjoyed reading this  .. you would love to read more on <ahref=http://shyjumathew.com/blog/2010/08/24/developing-the-prophetic-ear>Developing the Prophetic Ear</a> .. I have backlinked the phrase to help you find it easily :)

  22. binsurobinson Says:

    The bible is the Final Authority – not the prophetic but revelation is important in our daily lives .. its the imprint of Gods word on your Spirit :)

    Read this .. and try to follow http://shyjumathew.com/blog/2010/08/24/developing-the-prophetic-ear

  23. Candlestick Says:

    I watched the video to the right about the power of the tongue and was stunned. Now I understand a conversation I had a few weeks ago with a woman who went balistic over this topic. I couldn’t figure out why she was going on about there not being any power in the tongue when the Bible clearly says there is. She must have been exposed to this warped version.

  24. Geezes Says:

    Oh, so this HOW the new age, post Jesus propheteers do it ?

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