Comments on: Unfalsifiable Prophecies http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991 A biblical response to the modern prophets & apostles movement Fri, 05 Aug 2011 00:15:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Mark http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-17611 Mark Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:03:18 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-17611 I think its part funny and sad that people have sold their God given intellect and spirituality to these so called prophets. A prophet of God as you see in the OT was a life of pain, rejection, suffering and sometimes death. They were outcasts. They were misunderstood. We need to carefully study scripture in the context of history and society at that time. God told his people Israel he would send them prophets. Jesus spoke of this. In the NT God gave us a five fold ministry not OT style prophets for the prefecting of the saints. How and if that works out today is the question...BUT to assume one is a Prophet is a very dangerous course. Being in trouble with man is minor but being in trouble with God is much different. i would tremble to think what will happen to the presumptious. I think its part funny and sad that people have sold their God given intellect and spirituality to these so called prophets. A prophet of God as you see in the OT was a life of pain, rejection, suffering and sometimes death. They were outcasts. They were misunderstood.
We need to carefully study scripture in the context of history and society at that time. God told his people Israel he would send them prophets. Jesus spoke of this. In the NT God gave us a five fold ministry not OT style prophets for the prefecting of the saints. How and if that works out today is the question…BUT to assume one is a Prophet is a very dangerous course. Being in trouble with man is minor but being in trouble with God is much different. i would tremble to think what will happen to the presumptious.

]]> By: Melissa http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-12545 Melissa Mon, 09 May 2011 20:00:47 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-12545 I recently heard Erica speak at my church, there is no doubt in my mind that God has blessed her with gifts to communicate.  However, it is because of that I am a skeptic. We must remember that the enemy spoke to Eve and was beautiful. I am not saying she is Satan, however, I do believe she is a sinner just like anyone else, in need of God's love.  She need not parade around the country speaking wild heresies for her own glory. It is true that God wants us to partner with one another, but there is nothing unique about the word she gives that doesnt already appear in the WORD. All we need to do is look at ACTS. This is not a prophetic word, but an encouraging word.  In addition,  I witnessed her methodology and listened deeply to the words she uses and it is very shamanistic and borders on emotionalism. I believe God wants to revive us, but sometime she is off base. I dont think that it is that she shouldnt be in ministry, but we need to rebuke the spirit of confusion around her, which leads her to believe, she is hear to release dreams in some demigod like way.  We release dreams in others by encouraging them in the Word adn through prayer.   Further more, In terms of the content, the focus seemed to be on some new Christian hip speak rather than teaching us to draw to close to God. My understanding is that prophesy is wonderful, but it is purpose is to teach.  On a a lighter note, I believe that even though her tactics are bordering on the spirit of error, I do know she is a woman whom God deeply loves and wants to use. So lets pray for her and her mission, that she may humble herself.   I am deeply concerned for people in my church community, who believe this is the way in which God makes himself known.  So lets pray for them that they may learn to see GOD.  I mean, I am not saying God doesnt give us prophetic vision and voice,  however, if you arent hearing it the scripture or hearing it in prayer, than I must say it JUST AINT RIGHT.  I firmly believe God gives us a voice and giftings, but I dont believe he blesses Erica anymore than anyone else who is desiring his WORD.    Also, I kinda had to reject what she was saying when the message on Sunday ended on an andecdote regarding Nicole Kidman and how we need to look for the Nicole Kidman's to partner with and get encouragement from... I mean what does that mean.  Sorry Erica, but I dont look to the streets and to the stars but I look and hear from the CROSS. Its speaks. I recently heard Erica speak at my church, there is no doubt in my mind that God has blessed her with gifts to communicate.  However, it is because of that I am a skeptic. We must remember that the enemy spoke to Eve and was beautiful. I am not saying she is Satan, however, I do believe she is a sinner just like anyone else, in need of God’s love.  She need not parade around the country speaking wild heresies for her own glory. It is true that God wants us to partner with one another, but there is nothing unique about the word she gives that doesnt already appear in the WORD. All we need to do is look at ACTS. This is not a prophetic word, but an encouraging word.  In addition,  I witnessed her methodology and listened deeply to the words she uses and it is very shamanistic and borders on emotionalism. I believe God wants to revive us, but sometime she is off base. I dont think that it is that she shouldnt be in ministry, but we need to rebuke the spirit of confusion around her, which leads her to believe, she is hear to release dreams in some demigod like way.  We release dreams in others by encouraging them in the Word adn through prayer.   Further more, In terms of the content, the focus seemed to be on some new Christian hip speak rather than teaching us to draw to close to God. My understanding is that prophesy is wonderful, but it is purpose is to teach.  On a a lighter note, I believe that even though her tactics are bordering on the spirit of error, I do know she is a woman whom God deeply loves and wants to use. So lets pray for her and her mission, that she may humble herself.   I am deeply concerned for people in my church community, who believe this is the way in which God makes himself known.  So lets pray for them that they may learn to see GOD.  I mean, I am not saying God doesnt give us prophetic vision and voice,  however, if you arent hearing it the scripture or hearing it in prayer, than I must say it JUST AINT RIGHT.  I firmly believe God gives us a voice and giftings, but I dont believe he blesses Erica anymore than anyone else who is desiring his WORD.    Also, I kinda had to reject what she was saying when the message on Sunday ended on an andecdote regarding Nicole Kidman and how we need to look for the Nicole Kidman’s to partner with and get encouragement from… I mean what does that mean.  Sorry Erica, but I dont look to the streets and to the stars but I look and hear from the CROSS. Its speaks.

]]> By: chizeled http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-5677 chizeled Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:14:19 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-5677 A lot of so called prophets are vague in the way that soothsayers are.  However, some prophecies are quite specific. For example, the sign of the beast is the third eye, eye of Horus or Ra or Satan, or whatever you want to call it.  Watch for it to start appearing on all the celebrities. Notice the sign of the beast is the symbol for the European Union here: http://tvnewsroom.consilium.europa.eu/ Just like Revelation 13:16 indicates, Hindus like wearing the sign of the beast on their hand or forehead such as here: http://asianwindow.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/goddess.jpg or see Lady GaGa with the Masonic symbol in her hand here: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B84FEFoiss4/S_SreBCO7BI/AAAAAAAAADY/4g7utJ0CmQ8/s1600/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg and if that's not specific enough for you, let's talk about the antichrist.. Matt24:4 Jesus said "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many..." Beware of anyone like David Rothschild, for example: http://www.thetimetv.com/_upload/_actu/actu_1532.jpg Google how Prince Charles just appeared as a hologram in Dubai and then just imagine for a moment what would happen if Rothschild did the same? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwXf5H3HmM&feature=related Psalm 118:26 Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD. From the house of the LORD we bless you. A lot of so called prophets are vague in the way that soothsayers are. 
However, some prophecies are quite specific.
For example, the sign of the beast is the third eye, eye of Horus or Ra or Satan, or whatever you want to call it.  Watch for it to start appearing on all the celebrities.
Notice the sign of the beast is the symbol for the European Union here:
http://tvnewsroom.consilium.europa.eu/
Just like Revelation 13:16 indicates, Hindus like wearing the sign of the beast on their hand or forehead such as here:
http://asianwindow.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/goddess.jpg
or see Lady GaGa with the Masonic symbol in her hand here:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_B84FEFoiss4/S_SreBCO7BI/AAAAAAAAADY/4g7utJ0CmQ8/s1600/ladygagahandoffatimamannequin.jpg

and if that’s not specific enough for you, let’s talk about the antichrist..
Matt24:4 Jesus said “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ, and will deceive many…”
Beware of anyone like David Rothschild, for example:
http://www.thetimetv.com/_upload/_actu/actu_1532.jpg
Google how Prince Charles just appeared as a hologram in Dubai and then just imagine for a moment what would happen if Rothschild did the same?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwXf5H3HmM&feature=related

Psalm 118:26 Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD. From the house of the LORD we bless you.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-5114 Daniel Tue, 05 Oct 2010 09:45:46 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-5114 Prophecies were give for the setting up and fulfillment of Gods plan of salvation, there are none given for any other reason, salvation is a finished work. John says were there are prophecies they will cease but only love remains. God is not the author of confusion and by having many prophets with many messages he would be exactly that. Therefor anyone claiming to be a prophet of God in the sense of revealing something new and related to salvation is nothing but a pretender and a liar. Salvation has already been revealed and only needs to be understood as written. 'Those who would claim to be prophets are seeking attention or control by attempting to make people believe they are a conduit of truth directly from God more so than the next person. We have the word and have no need of lying prophets. Prophecies were give for the setting up and fulfillment of Gods plan of salvation, there are none given for any other reason, salvation is a finished work. John says were there are prophecies they will cease but only love remains. God is not the author of confusion and by having many prophets with many messages he would be exactly that. Therefor anyone claiming to be a prophet of God in the sense of revealing something new and related to salvation is nothing but a pretender and a liar. Salvation has already been revealed and only needs to be understood as written. ‘Those who would claim to be prophets are seeking attention or control by attempting to make people believe they are a conduit of truth directly from God more so than the next person. We have the word and have no need of lying prophets.

]]> By: MABEL http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-2492 MABEL Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:27:20 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-2492 Under the old Covenant - Old Testament - God communicated through the offices of PROPHET, PRIEST AND KING.  Today under the New Covenant (NT) the Spirit has been poured on ALL believers. I should  say INTO EACH BELIEVER.    We each have the capability of  hearing from God  if we have been born again and  indwelt   with  the Spirit of Jesus Christ.  If these present day Prophets were put to the test----   DEUT. 13:1 thru 18:22 gives a good definition of a TRUE prophet,   many would fall by the way side. Read your Bible and listen tothe Holy Spiril WITHIN YOU. Under the old Covenant – Old Testament – God communicated through the offices of PROPHET, PRIEST AND KING.  Today under the New Covenant (NT) the Spirit has been poured on ALL believers. I should  say INTO EACH BELIEVER.    We each have the capability of  hearing from God  if we have been born again and  indwelt   with  the Spirit of Jesus Christ.  If these present day Prophets were put to the test—-   DEUT. 13:1 thru 18:22 gives a good definition of a TRUE prophet,   many would fall by the way side. Read your Bible and listen tothe Holy Spiril WITHIN YOU.

]]> By: Lisa http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-2460 Lisa Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:35:14 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-2460 Thank you for explaining that Leah - I was lumping both together...so that makes total sense!  Thank you for explaining that Leah – I was lumping both together…so that makes total sense! 

]]> By: joh http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-2417 joh Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:50:24 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-2417 Well the winner of the 2010 American idol was lee Dwyse, so the word of the Lord through that was...... God is going to" lead the wise......" hmmmmm, really deep huh. Well the winner of the 2010 American idol was lee Dwyse, so the word of the Lord through that was…… God is going to” lead the wise……” hmmmmm, really deep huh.

]]> By: Leah http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-2395 Leah Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:02:18 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-2395 The prophets of the OT prophecied that the sun would go down on the prophets at the death of the Messiah. The time of the prophets is over for a time.  The time of Apostleship is here.  If someone is not teaching to Words of Christ, they are false. Prophets are for Israel.  The gift of prophecy, or interpretation of Biblical prophecy is altogether different. The prophets of the OT prophecied that the sun would go down on the prophets at the death of the Messiah.
The time of the prophets is over for a time.  The time of Apostleship is here.  If someone is not teaching to Words of Christ, they are false.
Prophets are for Israel.  The gift of prophecy, or interpretation of Biblical prophecy is altogether different.

]]> By: Lisa http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-2358 Lisa Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:52:35 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-2358 Are there any current real prophets in the world that can be trusted and that we should be looking to?  Are there any current real prophets in the world that can be trusted and that we should be looking to? 

]]> By: Mary Ann http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2010/06/unfalsifiable-prophecies/991/comment-page-1#comment-2315 Mary Ann Mon, 28 Jun 2010 00:13:43 +0000 http://www.SpiritOfError.org/?p=991#comment-2315 Sometimes there is just enough truth in a prophecy to make the false undiscernable....but really....  "I also feel that it will be significant who wins <em>American Idol</em> in 2010. I feel this was why there was a war over the show, and I feel the Lord wants to declare a message through <em>who wins</em> the show this year." One should stop reading immediately following this piece of "prophecy."  I mean, really..... Sometimes there is just enough truth in a prophecy to make the false undiscernable….but really…. 

“I also feel that it will be significant who wins American Idol in 2010. I feel this was why there was a war over the show, and I feel the Lord wants to declare a message through who wins the show this year.”

One should stop reading immediately following this piece of “prophecy.”  I mean, really…..

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