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The ‘Word of the Lord for 2010′ — Maybe, Possibly, It Could Be

2010_keyThe Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders has released their “Word of the Lord for 2010.” But don’t hold them to it.

Each January, this group of “prophets” — led by C. Peter Wagner and Cindy Jacobs — meets to determine what God has shown them about the new year.

This year’s prophecies — like previous years — are so vague that there would be no way of knowing if they were actually fulfilled. I call them “fortune cookie” prophecies.

But even if they weren’t vague, the ACPE includes so many disclaimers before their prophecies that not one of them would ever have to come to pass — and they could still call themselves “prophets.”

One of their favorite disclaimers is the one I call the “moving calendar” disclaimer. Just because they call it the “Word of the Lord for 2010″ doesn’t necessarily mean the prophecies will be fulfilled in 2010, according to the ACPE prophets. Maybe it will be in 2011. Or maybe 2012. Hey, why limit themselves to a single decade?

But this year they have another disclaimer they call “conditional prophecies.”

Conditional Prophecies

Their first disclaimer states this:

“All prophecy not contained in Scripture is conditional.”

What do they mean by saying that the prophecies they give are “conditional”? Their statement is clarified by another one of their disclaimers, which states:

“It is possible that prophetic warnings will cause either the person or nation to repent and so turn away the judgment prophesied. Biblically, this happened when Jonah prophesied to Nineveh and the city repented, causing God to relent.”

So, what they mean by saying that their prophecies are “conditional” is that they may or may not happen — based on whether their listeners choose to act on them or not. Just like the prophecy about Ninevah, God could change His mind.

In other words, their prophecy about a Holy Spirit revival occurring in Indonesia — well, that one might or might not happen. It depends on a number of factors, such as whether their followers prayed and worked hard enough to stir up a revival. And then there’s the prophecy about  the eradication of poverty. Again, it may or may not happen — depending on what things churches do to help the poor.

And, oh yes, don’t forget their prophecy about the rise of a third political party in America. Maybe a new party will rise. And if it does, the ACPE will be sure to take credit. But if it doesn’t, it’s not their fault. It’s the fault of the American people — or somebody, anybody else. And on it goes.

Are you getting the picture?

But there’s one gaping hole in this “conditional prophecy” theory. The Bible doesn’t teach it. Which Scripture passages say that all prophecies — other than those found in Scripture — are conditional? Show them to me.

What the Bible does teach is that prophets must be tested for their accuracy (Deuteronomy 18:20-22). The apostle Paul told the Thessalonians to examine every prophecy carefully (1 Thessalonians 5:19-22).

By saying that their prophecies don’t have to come to pass, the ACPE has thrown out the most basic test for knowing if a prophet is true or false — the accuracy test.

But that — maybe, possibly, could be — the point.

The ACPE members this year include Bill Hamon, Sam Brassfield, Harry Jackson, Rick Ridings, Greg Black, Will Ford, Mike Jacobs, Peter Wagner, Mary Glazier, Sharon Stone, Cindy Jacobs, John Sanford, Beth Alves, Gwen Shaw and Doris Wagner (pictured below).

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11 Responses to “The ‘Word of the Lord for 2010′ — Maybe, Possibly, It Could Be”

  1. Josiah Says:

    The LORD does not take these false prophets and their vain imaginations lightly.  Read a powerful prophetic word directly addressing these folks:  http://beholditcomes.blogspot.com/2010/01/woe-to-elders-and-leaders.html

  2. Vince Says:

    I think Jeremiah 23:20-40 apply!

  3. Roger Says:

    Amen Vince…!!     One wonders whether the practise of stoning false prophets nowadays would lesson the number of false prophecies..?  Am I being cynical, or does the ‘conditional’ clause excuse false prophets (they hope) from responsibility and judgement..??  

  4. Vince Says:

    Jer.23:20-40

  5. Buronic Says:

    I almost had C. Peter Wagner lay hands on me. thank God that did not happen. I was at a bible school in tulsa (not rhema) and he had finished up his speech on Apostles and whatever and he was laying hands on people and I was standing next to him as he prayed for someone else and I felt an electrical like jolt hit my arm as he prayed, then i had this thought just let him go he’s busy. he then left and man who knows what would have happened to me. I probably would have become a huge signs and wonders chaser being led astray.

  6. Robin Says:

    I understand the theology of  Conditional Prophecy.  Sure, if Ninevah is subject to destruction, and repents, they are spared.

    However, what we see now a days, is some fickle factor, such as someone prayed, someone rebuked a spirit, or some other non-significant event, that can be counted as having prevented the prophesied event.  Like, did God really spare the USA from the Haiti earthquake because of our repentance?  I don’t think so.

    For all the dire, doom and gloom,  prophecies for America, what I don’t see is any subsequent repentance.  America is not hearing these prophecies.  America is not trembling before God and forsaking its sin.  Yet, the horrible prophecies have not come to pass.

    Likewise, all the “This is the Best Year Ever”, “End of Debt Year”, “Transfer of  Wealth”, “Jubilee”, “Revival” prophecies seem hollow and empty.

    Basically, no one is listening.  The so called prophets are prophesying to themselves.    The prophets are holding conferences at luxury resorts, but they are not preaching to the masses. 

    They are like the children Jesus referred to who pipe, but to whom no one pays attention.  These prophets are simply playing prophet, prophesying to each other, holding conferences, selling books, but lacking the guts to go and prophecy in the public square.

    There will be no results from these multitudes of prophecies that these so-called prophets share with themselves.   Let them preach judgment,  repentance, and salvation to the lost, and see what happens.

  7. A_Disciple Says:

    Its a sign of the times not that these false prophets are up and about, but that God’s people, who have many copies of His word sitting on their bookshelves, do not see the error:

    Ezekiel 13: 1 And the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who prophesy, and say to those who prophesy out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of the LORD!’”
    3 Thus says the Lord GOD: “Woe to the foolish prophets, who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! 4 O Israel, your prophets are like foxes in the deserts. 5 You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the LORD. 6 They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the LORD!’ But the LORD has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. 7 Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The LORD says,’ but I have not spoken.”
    8 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you,”says the Lord GOD. 9 “My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord GOD.
    10 “Because, indeed, because they have seduced My people, saying, ‘Peace!’ when there is no peace–and one builds a wall, and they plaster it with untempered mortar– 11 say to those who plaster it with untempered mortar, that it will fall. There will be flooding rain, and you, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall tear it down. 12 Surely, when the wall has fallen, will it not be said to you, ‘Where is the mortar with which you plastered it?’”
    13 Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “I will cause a stormy wind to break forth in My fury; and there shall be a flooding rain in My anger, and great hailstones in fury to consume it. 14 So I will break down the wall you have plastered with untempered mortar, and bring it down to the ground, so that its foundation will be uncovered; it will fall, and you shall be consumed in the midst of it. Then you shall know that I am the LORD.
    15 “Thus will I accomplish My wrath on the wall and on those who have plastered it with untempered mortar; and I will say to you, ‘The wall is no more, nor those who plastered it, 16 that is, the prophets of Israel who prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and who see visions of peace for her when there is no peace,’”says the Lord GOD.

  8. deepsquatter Says:

    Amen

  9. Christ's_ Servant Says:

    I thank the Lord for his grace and mercy, and ultimately for His Word, which is the final authority. I also thank the Lord for blogs like this, and for being merciful and opening up my eyes. I was an avid follower of Bill Hamon, C Peter Wagner and the whole NAR squad, I probaly have a whole lot of their books on my book shelf. I was believing a lie, and being decieved. I truly thank Jesus for opening my eyes, and giving a heart to repent from following these false prophets and false teachers. Thank You Jesus for exposing the enemy, and I am grateful for tools such as Spirit of Error. We are truly living in the last days, false teaching is rampant, and seems that it is all around, but Praise the Lord for the remnant who desire His word and his truth.

  10. ROWAN Says:

    I too was once an avid follower of Bill Hamon and the whole ACPE team.  But I found no real fathering spirit nor fellowship for years except when they held conferences and wanted your money.  Thank you Jesus for opening my eyes to truth and this last days deception.

  11. powerbench Says:

    These are so vague its silly.

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