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	<description>A biblical response to the modern prophets &#38; apostles movement</description>
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		<title>By: Frank Verderosa</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Verderosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Holly,

Do not be deceived by J Dobson, he is no different then the heritics with the NAR. Dobson is a sell out to the faith. He has aligned himself with the Emergent Church and in no way has he warned the sheep of all the false doctrine&#039;s and false teachers. His ministry promotes the new age and the ocullt with his ties to the Emerging church. I hope all is well with you and pray the Lord will lift you up. Jesus Christ is our Lord and master for ever and ever.

Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Holly,</p>
<p>Do not be deceived by J Dobson, he is no different then the heritics with the NAR. Dobson is a sell out to the faith. He has aligned himself with the Emergent Church and in no way has he warned the sheep of all the false doctrine&#8217;s and false teachers. His ministry promotes the new age and the ocullt with his ties to the Emerging church. I hope all is well with you and pray the Lord will lift you up. Jesus Christ is our Lord and master for ever and ever.</p>
<p>Frank</p>
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		<title>By: endtimespropheticwords</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>endtimespropheticwords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you just love the way that people who speak the truth are called &#039;rebellious&#039;, &#039;divisive&#039; or &#039;unaccountable&#039;? And criticism is just soooo unloving.
Hogwash!

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you just love the way that people who speak the truth are called &#8216;rebellious&#8217;, &#8216;divisive&#8217; or &#8216;unaccountable&#8217;? And criticism is just soooo unloving.<br />
Hogwash!</p>
<p><a href="http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deb Lundeen</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Lundeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly?  Where are you??  I read somewhere on this site about your father passing away...?  If so, I&#039;m sad for you.  Please come back and continue this &#039;good work&#039; you have begun.  We need your voice of reason!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly?  Where are you??  I read somewhere on this site about your father passing away&#8230;?  If so, I&#8217;m sad for you.  Please come back and continue this &#8216;good work&#8217; you have begun.  We need your voice of reason!</p>
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		<title>By: chinua000</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-913</link>
		<dc:creator>chinua000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 08:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simply refreshing!

in this age of rants and self-styled experts, what i like about you is your humor. humor is not a highly valued christian virtue, but i sure like an honest chuckle.

of course i dont mean mean demonizing, and i dont mean tearing others down to elevate ourselves. i dont even mean packing your language so chock full of scripture and self-righteousness that you cant stop and just be human. (hey dont flame man! *insert cringing and flinching* i love the bible and consider it our one true authority His clear voice. take it easy!)

being human is important, especially because part of what concerns me about the NAR movement is its intergalactic non-personal height and the natural and predictable roughshod treatment of people in its path. who has time for caring for people when God himself is speaking? its shockingly inhuman cartoonish characters, its larger than life uber appeal, its mega-plotlines and wild claims all leave the average person with no perspective whatsoever on real life. it doent seem to really help us do our job.

christianity is in fact beautiful and poingnantly simple. love people in need, share your life, preach the gospel, love God. in no particular order, these are that things that make us who we are, they always have. stand up for good old orthodox central christianity snas frills!!

you humor is just human. you are poking fun at something that is frankly begging for it. the new apostolic movement in all its glory is not exempt from this human virtue, i dare say the christian virtue of a good laugh. it&#039;s too good to pass up honestly.

This topic is very serious of course, it concerns us all. but we have to laugh about it so that we can talk anout it.  anyone  can write off a rant, but a wry and witty expose like yours is almost irrisistable, as well as having some good plain truth in it.

good job holly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simply refreshing!</p>
<p>in this age of rants and self-styled experts, what i like about you is your humor. humor is not a highly valued christian virtue, but i sure like an honest chuckle.</p>
<p>of course i dont mean mean demonizing, and i dont mean tearing others down to elevate ourselves. i dont even mean packing your language so chock full of scripture and self-righteousness that you cant stop and just be human. (hey dont flame man! *insert cringing and flinching* i love the bible and consider it our one true authority His clear voice. take it easy!)</p>
<p>being human is important, especially because part of what concerns me about the NAR movement is its intergalactic non-personal height and the natural and predictable roughshod treatment of people in its path. who has time for caring for people when God himself is speaking? its shockingly inhuman cartoonish characters, its larger than life uber appeal, its mega-plotlines and wild claims all leave the average person with no perspective whatsoever on real life. it doent seem to really help us do our job.</p>
<p>christianity is in fact beautiful and poingnantly simple. love people in need, share your life, preach the gospel, love God. in no particular order, these are that things that make us who we are, they always have. stand up for good old orthodox central christianity snas frills!!</p>
<p>you humor is just human. you are poking fun at something that is frankly begging for it. the new apostolic movement in all its glory is not exempt from this human virtue, i dare say the christian virtue of a good laugh. it&#8217;s too good to pass up honestly.</p>
<p>This topic is very serious of course, it concerns us all. but we have to laugh about it so that we can talk anout it.  anyone  can write off a rant, but a wry and witty expose like yours is almost irrisistable, as well as having some good plain truth in it.</p>
<p>good job holly!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, where are you?!  I&#039;ve been checking in often but haven&#039;t seen anything since May.  Hope this blog continues because we really need it!
God bless, Heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, where are you?!  I&#8217;ve been checking in often but haven&#8217;t seen anything since May.  Hope this blog continues because we really need it!<br />
God bless, Heather</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Says:

April 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Hello Everyone especially all my Brothers and Sisters in The Lord Jesus Christ: I will be brief. I have given allot of thought and prayer to what we all comment on good, bad or in between. I have decided that after prayer I am and so are most of us reacting to so many things on this blog. We are all in our minds and hearts to one degree or another right.

The point I am trying to make, would it not be wiser for all of us to stop trying to get points across about people and instead concentrate how we could encourage one another in The Word. I know that there are many false teachers and false works, yet do you not think it would be wiser to follow Jesus example and pray for people who we feel are in error of scripture Matthew 5:43-48. If they are wrong, The Lord will, as always, deal with them and thier works, He will deny them Matthew 7:21-23 and Romans 12:19-20. If we go even further we see His example on the Cross
Luke 23:34.

I can speak from personal experience here as I am as wrong as anyone else, and as Jesus also reminds us in Matthew 5:14-16 we are His light, the light of the world, and we are to shine for Him so as to glorify The Father in heaven.

I pray that we can turn Holly’s wonderful blog into an encouraging spirit filled site for one another. It would be so wonderful if others would read this blog and write comments like Trust in the Lord, I recieved Christ today, I was water baptised today, etc.

Thank you all and God Bless

Your Brother in The Lord

Dave

davidandsherri@pei.symapatico.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Says:</p>
<p>April 16th, 2007 at 2:22 pm<br />
Hello Everyone especially all my Brothers and Sisters in The Lord Jesus Christ: I will be brief. I have given allot of thought and prayer to what we all comment on good, bad or in between. I have decided that after prayer I am and so are most of us reacting to so many things on this blog. We are all in our minds and hearts to one degree or another right.</p>
<p>The point I am trying to make, would it not be wiser for all of us to stop trying to get points across about people and instead concentrate how we could encourage one another in The Word. I know that there are many false teachers and false works, yet do you not think it would be wiser to follow Jesus example and pray for people who we feel are in error of scripture Matthew 5:43-48. If they are wrong, The Lord will, as always, deal with them and thier works, He will deny them Matthew 7:21-23 and Romans 12:19-20. If we go even further we see His example on the Cross<br />
Luke 23:34.</p>
<p>I can speak from personal experience here as I am as wrong as anyone else, and as Jesus also reminds us in Matthew 5:14-16 we are His light, the light of the world, and we are to shine for Him so as to glorify The Father in heaven.</p>
<p>I pray that we can turn Holly’s wonderful blog into an encouraging spirit filled site for one another. It would be so wonderful if others would read this blog and write comments like Trust in the Lord, I recieved Christ today, I was water baptised today, etc.</p>
<p>Thank you all and God Bless</p>
<p>Your Brother in The Lord</p>
<p>Dave</p>
<p><a href="mailto:davidandsherri@pei.symapatico.ca">davidandsherri@pei.symapatico.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: kimberly</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-914</link>
		<dc:creator>kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of naming names.... but can anyone show me a scripture in the bible that tells us as christians, that we are supposed to name the name of the anti-christ....???   i will &quot;stay tuned&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of naming names&#8230;. but can anyone show me a scripture in the bible that tells us as christians, that we are supposed to name the name of the anti-christ&#8230;.???   i will &#8220;stay tuned&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You asked;  Here’s my question to you, John: do you trust the Holy Spirit to speak to you?

The answer is yes. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible and it is sufficient for my growing in the Knowledge of God. I need no one to speak for God to me, including a voice in my head I can&#039;t prove is God or not. The wonderful thing about having God&#039;s plan for man in written form is anyone can read it.

Hebrews 1 tells me God has spoken through a Son and in times past he spoke through the dreams, visions etc. but now I have His  written Word. I can grow in the Faith by studying His Word or His Testimony of Himself.

YOU SAID: If you don’t hear God’s voice (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) I’m not going to say it’s your fault, but I am going to say you need to ask God to show what pride and what erroneous theology might be blocking you from going deeper with Him.

YOU Said: I’m not going to say it’s your fault

Then you go ahead and say it is. As the Holy Spirit wrote in James I am soley responsible for my own sin and Pride is a sin. Don&#039;t worry I am not offended at all.

This is like a Christian who has been told by someone who heard from God (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) that God was going to heal them. Then when that person dies the only excuse the &quot;Prophet&quot; has is that the person did not have enough faith. Because the voice (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) was God&#039;s and God can&#039;t be wrong.

YOU SAID: Prophecy has NEVER ---not been controversial---and it will never stop being controversial.

Just because something is controversial or not does not add creditablity to a postion. For example the Belief in a creator God or man as a creation vs. evoluton. An argument has to stand on its own merit. This is why Chrsit always pointed to the scripture more than the miracels he performed. The Old T. was His witness Because Holy Spirit had testified of His (Jesus) coming in written form.

Just because an event happened in the Old T. does not mean it will or is going to happen that same way today (ie God speaking through visions etc.) A good example of this is the sacrifices, or the stoning for sins. God is still the same He just deals with man in different ways. This is what the whole book of Hebrews is about, Christ superiority over the old covenent.

You SAID: As for your story about what the preacher said, I would have to ----seek the Lord myself to see if there’s some validity to that idea

Does this mean you will hear from God(by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) and will you be allowed to share it with me. Will the validity be something I can write down in my Bible. I would be real curious to know what form of communication the conformation comes to you about &quot;what the preacher said.&quot;

Let me know what you hear. I only ask because you have put forth the idea that I may have issuse that keep me from hearing from God and you have heard or can hear his voice.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asked;  Here’s my question to you, John: do you trust the Holy Spirit to speak to you?</p>
<p>The answer is yes. The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible and it is sufficient for my growing in the Knowledge of God. I need no one to speak for God to me, including a voice in my head I can&#8217;t prove is God or not. The wonderful thing about having God&#8217;s plan for man in written form is anyone can read it.</p>
<p>Hebrews 1 tells me God has spoken through a Son and in times past he spoke through the dreams, visions etc. but now I have His  written Word. I can grow in the Faith by studying His Word or His Testimony of Himself.</p>
<p>YOU SAID: If you don’t hear God’s voice (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) I’m not going to say it’s your fault, but I am going to say you need to ask God to show what pride and what erroneous theology might be blocking you from going deeper with Him.</p>
<p>YOU Said: I’m not going to say it’s your fault</p>
<p>Then you go ahead and say it is. As the Holy Spirit wrote in James I am soley responsible for my own sin and Pride is a sin. Don&#8217;t worry I am not offended at all.</p>
<p>This is like a Christian who has been told by someone who heard from God (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) that God was going to heal them. Then when that person dies the only excuse the &#8220;Prophet&#8221; has is that the person did not have enough faith. Because the voice (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) was God&#8217;s and God can&#8217;t be wrong.</p>
<p>YOU SAID: Prophecy has NEVER &#8212;not been controversial&#8212;and it will never stop being controversial.</p>
<p>Just because something is controversial or not does not add creditablity to a postion. For example the Belief in a creator God or man as a creation vs. evoluton. An argument has to stand on its own merit. This is why Chrsit always pointed to the scripture more than the miracels he performed. The Old T. was His witness Because Holy Spirit had testified of His (Jesus) coming in written form.</p>
<p>Just because an event happened in the Old T. does not mean it will or is going to happen that same way today (ie God speaking through visions etc.) A good example of this is the sacrifices, or the stoning for sins. God is still the same He just deals with man in different ways. This is what the whole book of Hebrews is about, Christ superiority over the old covenent.</p>
<p>You SAID: As for your story about what the preacher said, I would have to &#8212;-seek the Lord myself to see if there’s some validity to that idea</p>
<p>Does this mean you will hear from God(by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) and will you be allowed to share it with me. Will the validity be something I can write down in my Bible. I would be real curious to know what form of communication the conformation comes to you about &#8220;what the preacher said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let me know what you hear. I only ask because you have put forth the idea that I may have issuse that keep me from hearing from God and you have heard or can hear his voice.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Jared White</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, people throughout the Old and New Testament didn&#039;t believe that people were in holy communication with the Lord. Jesus commented on this numerous times directly. Prophecy has NEVER not been controversial, and it will never stop being controversial.

If you don&#039;t hear God&#039;s voice (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) I&#039;m not going to say it&#039;s your fault, but I am going to say you need to ask God to show what pride and what erroneous theology might be blocking you from going deeper with Him. I remember distinctly mocking the notion a couple of years ago that God could speak to us today in dreams. It wasn&#039;t long before I actually had a prophetic dream. Needless to say, encounters that like tend to tweak our carefully constructed theologies a little bit. :) I&#039;ve had to deal with a LOT of pride and arrogance over the past several years, and I can tell you it&#039;s been a wonderful journey.

As for your story about what the preacher said, I would have to seek the Lord myself to see if there&#039;s some validity to that idea -- but what you&#039;re saying is quite ridiculous. There were prophets in both the Old and New Testament days whose revelations were never included in the Bible. Scripture is complete. But our communion with the Holy Spirit is continuous, and as long as we constantly make what we receive accountable to the principles of Scripture, in a spirit of humility and wisdom, we will do well.

Here&#039;s my question to you, John: do you trust the Holy Spirit to speak to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, people throughout the Old and New Testament didn&#8217;t believe that people were in holy communication with the Lord. Jesus commented on this numerous times directly. Prophecy has NEVER not been controversial, and it will never stop being controversial.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t hear God&#8217;s voice (by voice I mean knowledge, visions, strategies, etc., not just words) I&#8217;m not going to say it&#8217;s your fault, but I am going to say you need to ask God to show what pride and what erroneous theology might be blocking you from going deeper with Him. I remember distinctly mocking the notion a couple of years ago that God could speak to us today in dreams. It wasn&#8217;t long before I actually had a prophetic dream. Needless to say, encounters that like tend to tweak our carefully constructed theologies a little bit. <img src='http://www.SpiritOfError.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve had to deal with a LOT of pride and arrogance over the past several years, and I can tell you it&#8217;s been a wonderful journey.</p>
<p>As for your story about what the preacher said, I would have to seek the Lord myself to see if there&#8217;s some validity to that idea &#8212; but what you&#8217;re saying is quite ridiculous. There were prophets in both the Old and New Testament days whose revelations were never included in the Bible. Scripture is complete. But our communion with the Holy Spirit is continuous, and as long as we constantly make what we receive accountable to the principles of Scripture, in a spirit of humility and wisdom, we will do well.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my question to you, John: do you trust the Holy Spirit to speak to you?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2007/03/naming-names/92/comment-page-1#comment-912</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared you said &quot;I am so thankful I have learned how to hear God’s voice not just through His written Word (which is truly awesome) ----&quot;but also through His Spirit today.&quot;

Is the Author of the Bible still speaking and answering questions about His already spoken word? One Easter a preacher told his congregation, I asked God why an angel was sitting on the stone that was rolled away at the tomb of Jesus (Johns’ gospel account). He said God’s answer was if the angel had not been there, then Satan would have tried to roll the stone back. Do we insert this information that the preacher has obtained from the Author in; only the book of John or do we add it to all the other gospel resurrection accounts? If God is really communicating this information to this preacher it needs to be added to the Gospel accounts, as trivial as it may sound. Remember, we have John’s account telling us about the napkin that wrapped the head of Jesus in the tomb and that it was, “not lying with the linen cloths, but rolled up in a place by itself.” (John 20.7) If the Holy Spirit has given us this tidbit of information, surely the angel guarding the stone from Satan trying to roll it back should be included in there too, if you really believe the Author of the Bible is speaking to or through this preacher.

Jared should we be writing down what you hear from God. This is what has flamed the Prophetic movement, people hand pick themselves as hearing the voice of God.

We just have to take your word for it and if we don&#039;t hear God&#039;s voice it our fault for not getting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared you said &#8220;I am so thankful I have learned how to hear God’s voice not just through His written Word (which is truly awesome) &#8212;-&#8221;but also through His Spirit today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is the Author of the Bible still speaking and answering questions about His already spoken word? One Easter a preacher told his congregation, I asked God why an angel was sitting on the stone that was rolled away at the tomb of Jesus (Johns’ gospel account). He said God’s answer was if the angel had not been there, then Satan would have tried to roll the stone back. Do we insert this information that the preacher has obtained from the Author in; only the book of John or do we add it to all the other gospel resurrection accounts? If God is really communicating this information to this preacher it needs to be added to the Gospel accounts, as trivial as it may sound. Remember, we have John’s account telling us about the napkin that wrapped the head of Jesus in the tomb and that it was, “not lying with the linen cloths, but rolled up in a place by itself.” (John 20.7) If the Holy Spirit has given us this tidbit of information, surely the angel guarding the stone from Satan trying to roll it back should be included in there too, if you really believe the Author of the Bible is speaking to or through this preacher.</p>
<p>Jared should we be writing down what you hear from God. This is what has flamed the Prophetic movement, people hand pick themselves as hearing the voice of God.</p>
<p>We just have to take your word for it and if we don&#8217;t hear God&#8217;s voice it our fault for not getting it.</p>
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