Comments on: Psychics, Prophets and Scripture Twisting http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54 A biblical response to the modern prophets & apostles movement Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:20:59 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Double-G (G²) http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-580 Double-G (G²) Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:16:46 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-580 To the director/author of this blog, Thanks so much for posting this excellent, valuable, and insightful website!!! site!!! It's a blessing in more ways than one!!!! To the director/author of this blog,

Thanks so much for posting this excellent, valuable, and insightful website!!! site!!! It’s a blessing in more ways than one!!!!

]]> By: K. Houchens http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-578 K. Houchens Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:32:08 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-578 Dear Holly I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have been disturbed by these so called apostles and prophets for awhile now. Being a pastor it is troublesome knowing some in our church follow the people you mention. I have told them I do not agree with these teachers and believe their teachings to be false. Unfortunately some wont listen to sound doctrine. Please continue to share the truth of sound doctrine on your web page. God Bless You Dear Holly
I wholeheartedly agree with you. I have been disturbed by these so called apostles and prophets for awhile now. Being a pastor it is troublesome knowing some in our church follow the people you mention. I have told them I do not agree with these teachers and believe their teachings to be false. Unfortunately some wont listen to sound doctrine.
Please continue to share the truth of sound doctrine on your web page.
God Bless You

]]> By: Chalulamae http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-579 Chalulamae Mon, 05 Feb 2007 23:11:25 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-579 I just found this and realize the last posting was in December but I applaud the efforts at exposing false prophets. I think it has gone on far too long to keep quiet for fear of being an accuser of the brethren. That along with Jezebel ALWAYS come back as name calling if you ever dare go against these so called prophets. I did that once - When I worked at Elijah List. I was still being deceived into thinking it was the work of the Lord. Everyone there is deceived and led to believe that if you dont come alongside of this "glorious" work then you are missing the only thing going. The church where Steve is elder is also the same church that pays every false prophet to come and teach everything from new age to demonic activity. Not to mention the false prophets who are in sexual sin - usually they were given front row seats with no questions asked. The only reason Steve was listed as a prophet and speaker is because he puts on those conferences at his own church and pays top dollar for all the others. Seems we havent learned very well over the years. Glad to miss that boat thank you very much. I pray mercy for Steve and all the people who embrace everything going on there. That church is so incredibly deceived with every false prophet from every place imaginable \you would not even believe it! WE MUST discern for ourselves and test what is being taught. Its a lonely road. I just found this and realize the last posting was in December but I applaud the efforts at exposing false prophets. I think it has gone on far too long to keep quiet for fear of being an accuser of the brethren. That along with Jezebel ALWAYS come back as name calling if you ever dare go against these so called prophets.
I did that once – When I worked at Elijah List. I was still being deceived into thinking it was the work of the Lord.

Everyone there is deceived and led to believe that if you dont come alongside of this “glorious” work then you are missing the only thing going. The church where Steve is elder is also the same church that pays every false prophet to come and teach everything from new age to demonic activity. Not to mention the false prophets who are in sexual sin – usually they were given front row seats with no questions asked. The only reason Steve was listed as a prophet and speaker is because he puts on those conferences at his own church and pays top dollar for all the others. Seems we havent learned very well over the years.

Glad to miss that boat thank you very much. I pray mercy for Steve and all the people who embrace everything going on there. That church is so incredibly deceived with every false prophet from every place imaginable \you would not even believe it! WE MUST discern for ourselves and test what is being taught. Its a lonely road.

]]> By: David http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-577 David Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:20:25 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-577 Romans 14 Romans 14

]]> By: jody http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-555 jody Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:17:33 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-555 ~~~~ I don’t believe you can meet your own challenge and give just one or two verses that directly and clearly state your view that someone who gives false prophecies isn’t a false prophet. ~~~~ He cant Holly....but since he keeps claiming that he can and due to his claims.... may have some questioning whether he is telling the truth or not..... I thought it wise to have him show his proof ...so that everyone keeping up with this discussion can see and judge for themselves. It is the idea expressed in 1 corinthians....put into action.... 1Co 11:18 For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. 1Co 11:19 ******For there must be also heresies among you, so that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.****** God is not the author of confusion and will bless the efforts of those who do His will and keep His word unblemished. Luk 21:15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to withstand or to gainsay. Tit 1:9 holding to the faithful word which is according to the teaching, that he may be able to exhort in the sound doctrine, and to convict the gainsayers. Pro 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. ~~~~
I don’t believe you can meet your own challenge and give just one or two verses that directly and clearly state your view that someone who gives false prophecies isn’t a false prophet.
~~~~

He cant Holly….but since he keeps claiming that he can and due to his claims…. may have some questioning whether he is telling the truth or not…..

I thought it wise to have him show his proof …so that everyone keeping up with this discussion can see and judge for themselves.

It is the idea expressed in 1 corinthians….put into action….

1Co 11:18

For first of all,

when ye come together in the church,

I hear that there be divisions among you;

and I partly believe it.

1Co 11:19
******For there must be also heresies among you,

so that they which are approved

may be made manifest among you.******

God is not the author of confusion and will bless the efforts of those who do His will and keep His word unblemished.

Luk 21:15
for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to withstand or to gainsay.

Tit 1:9
holding to the faithful word which is according to the teaching, that he may be able to exhort in the sound doctrine, and to convict the gainsayers.

Pro 30:5
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Pro 30:6
Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

]]> By: David http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-554 David Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:38:59 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-554 Holly: Witnessing is the point, and as Believers it should in fact should be the only point. Remember The Lord commanded this The Great Commission Matt 28:19-20. Holly, we are representing the Lord, loosing that prospective is loosing everything. IN Christ Dave Holly: Witnessing is the point, and as Believers it should in fact should be the only point. Remember The Lord commanded this The Great Commission Matt 28:19-20.

Holly, we are representing the Lord, loosing that prospective is loosing everything.

IN Christ

Dave

]]> By: Jim http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-556 Jim Sun, 26 Nov 2006 16:06:33 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-556 None of this should "shock" or "alarm" any true believer in Jesus Christ. Since Christ ascended to heaven, we have been living in the last days. These self appointed prophets, apostles, healers, are simply antichrists that have come to try to pervert the Word of God. Peter stated: 1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. None of this should “shock” or “alarm” any true believer in Jesus Christ. Since Christ ascended to heaven, we have been living in the last days. These self appointed prophets, apostles, healers, are simply antichrists that have come to try to pervert the Word of God. Peter stated:
1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.

]]> By: Holly Pivec http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-576 Holly Pivec Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:29:35 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-576 David, Please keep to the issues. Whether EscMatrix has shared the gospel with others isn't the point being discussed here. Thank you! Holly David,

Please keep to the issues. Whether EscMatrix has shared the gospel with others isn’t the point being discussed here.

Thank you!

Holly

]]> By: Holly Pivec http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-553 Holly Pivec Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:24:38 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-553 EscMatrix, People here have given you Scripture that makes the point that one who gives false prophecies is a false prophet. I cited such Scripture in my post, and the other commenters here have also given Scripture. This teaching can be arrived at both from logic (someone who claims to speak on behalf of an all-knowing God but gets his/her predictions wrong obviously isn't speaking on behalf of an all-knowing God) and Scripture. You are ignoring clear Scripture that states this by twisting the Scripture, such as Deuteronomy 18:20-22. This passage clearly states that a person who says something that does not come to pass has spoken presumptuously and, therefore, was not sent by God (not sent as a spokesperson for God, i,e., is not a true prophet of God). The same passage says such a person must die. I don't understand how you cannot see that this is what the passage says. Your demand that someone give one verse that make this point (rather than a chapter or passage, like I just gave) is just silly. There are many Christian doctrines that aren't stated in just one verse, but they are clearly taught in Scripture. I don't believe you can meet your own challenge and give just one or two verses that directly and clearly state your view that someone who gives false prophecies isn't a false prophet. EscMatrix,
People here have given you Scripture that makes the point that one who gives false prophecies is a false prophet. I cited such Scripture in my post, and the other commenters here have also given Scripture. This teaching can be arrived at both from logic (someone who claims to speak on behalf of an all-knowing God but gets his/her predictions wrong obviously isn’t speaking on behalf of an all-knowing God) and Scripture. You are ignoring clear Scripture that states this by twisting the Scripture, such as Deuteronomy 18:20-22. This passage clearly states that a person who says something that does not come to pass has spoken presumptuously and, therefore, was not sent by God (not sent as a spokesperson for God, i,e., is not a true prophet of God). The same passage says such a person must die. I don’t understand how you cannot see that this is what the passage says.
Your demand that someone give one verse that make this point (rather than a chapter or passage, like I just gave) is just silly. There are many Christian doctrines that aren’t stated in just one verse, but they are clearly taught in Scripture. I don’t believe you can meet your own challenge and give just one or two verses that directly and clearly state your view that someone who gives false prophecies isn’t a false prophet.

]]> By: David http://www.SpiritOfError.org/2006/11/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/54/comment-page-1#comment-552 David Sun, 26 Nov 2006 00:23:03 +0000 http://spiritoferror.wordpress.com/2006/11/20/distinguishing-psychics-from-prophets-and-other-scripture-twisting/#comment-552 Dear folks: I have re-read Escmatrix again disagreement with everyone, such as asking again others to meet his challange. I do not believe he gets it. We care about the truth of God's word EscMatrix, no one needs to prove anything to you at all.The Bible answers all the questions, yet you want us to answer to you. You are not the Lord, please stop your foolishness, we stand on the word of God, that is it that is all. Escmatrix, while you continue with your ungodly foolishness, let me ask you one thing how many people did you witness to this week, this month, this year? And did you do it with the idea of The Lord taking center stage? Jesus Christ is the final word, He is the Word of God John 1. Please as I asked you before, repent and humble yourself before the Lord 1 Peter 5:5. You would do more good for the Lord witnessing with a humble heart Psalms 51:16-19. I ask you in Jesus name to please please consider what I am saying. I am so broken emotionally at this, dealing with your pride, and I would say so are others Jody, Laura, Rob and all the others. We do not want to argue, The Lord is right end of story. I again pray you will take The Lord to heart and listen to Him. I will keep praying for you as I am sure others are and will, please again consider all that is bieng said to you on these blogs. In Christ Dave Dear folks: I have re-read Escmatrix again disagreement with everyone, such as asking again others to meet his challange. I do not believe he gets it. We care about the truth of God’s word EscMatrix, no one needs to prove anything to you at all.The Bible answers all the questions, yet you want us to answer to you. You are not the Lord, please stop your foolishness, we stand on the word of God, that is it that is all.

Escmatrix, while you continue with your ungodly foolishness, let me ask you one thing how many people did you witness to this week, this month, this year? And did you do it with the idea of The Lord taking center stage?
Jesus Christ is the final word, He is the Word of God John 1.

Please as I asked you before, repent and humble yourself before the Lord
1 Peter 5:5. You would do more good for the Lord witnessing with a humble heart Psalms 51:16-19. I ask you in Jesus name to please please consider what I am saying. I am so broken emotionally at this, dealing with your pride, and I would say so are others Jody, Laura, Rob and all the others. We do not want to argue, The Lord is right end of story.

I again pray you will take The Lord to heart and listen to Him. I will keep praying for you as I am sure others are and will, please again consider all that is bieng said to you on these blogs.

In Christ

Dave

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